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veritas 07-10-2016 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 593485)
No, we should have armies and we should have police officers. But we need to make sure they are properly regulated and kept in check.

By not hiring any white people as policemen right?

veritas 07-10-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 593487)
the fact that Veritas pointed out how militarized the police are is a noteworthy troll backfire.

Wrong. That was my whole point. That all this is going to lead to militarized police and martial law. That if we can't realize that not ALL white cops are racist and want to use a badge to kill blacks then we will never have nice things.


Also....we need to remember definitions. How they differ from racism to prejudice to bias to stereotypes.

The Dallas killer was a racist. You cannot say that about any of the cops who killed the men. Fact.

It is unfortunate that some blacks are allowing these tragedies to make them worse than the very thing they are supposedly fighting for. Additionally is sad that race trumps truth and right.

Certain I am dissapointed in you right now. Yiu are better than this. Conversely look at greeds rhetoric in this thread. He is useless. A pawn. Certain you are able to think and yet choose the racial agenda....and go from a king to a pawn.

veritas 07-10-2016 02:57 PM

Let me make one final point before I go to church to legitimately pray for this county.

You err if you believe ALL are like ONE. That is rasisct

The very title of this thread should be *Fuck THOSE police*

Your sense of justice is eschew. Killing cops at random is not justice. Nor is making anyone guilty before the investigation.

If we look at statistics black men make up a small percentage of the population and yet a disproportionate amount of the homicides. Conversely the percentage of white cops active with the percentage who have killed an INNOCENT black man is WAY less.

Logic in hand, explain now how we can say ALL WHITE COPS but not ALL BLACK MEN?

THIS IS THE AGENDA THAT IS BLINDING YOU. WRONG AND RIGHT. NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

Zytorg out.

oats 07-10-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 593490)
Wrong. That was my whole point. That all this is going to lead to militarized police and martial law. That if we can't realize that not ALL white cops are racist and want to use a badge to kill blacks then we will never have nice things.

I'm just going to make this part boldface and let you figure out where you went wrong. If you can't do that...........ego.

veritas 07-10-2016 03:06 PM

Certain...show me you are a man of reason and logic. Concerned with what is true and good. Admit Yiu were frustrated and emotional when you made this thread and apologize. Change the title to fuck those police. Fair?

veritas 07-10-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 593492)
I'm just going to make this part boldface and let you figure out where you went wrong. If you can't do that...........ego.

Wrong. Don't play games. That would be like me saying your analogy about complainING about fbi and police is contradictory is in itself contradictory.

Greed 07-10-2016 03:29 PM

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If we look at statistics black men make up a small percentage of the population and yet a disproportionate amount of the homicides. Conversely the percentage of white cops active with the percentage who have killed an INNOCENT black man is WAY less.
So what you are saying is, black people are a hostile breed and should be treated as such? Its that white privileged attititude that is the cause of all of this in the first place.

The dallas killer wasnt a racist and if he was a racist it was after the fact racism against his oppressors. And those cops were racist. Its like 'oh well its only cause everyone has cameras' . How many times do we have to show you they are KILLING us for you to believe it?

The badge shouldnt be a license to kill, and if it is who will hold the police to a higher standard? They don the uniform to protect us but they are afraid of the very thing they are protecting.

Destroyer 07-10-2016 03:38 PM

Wow veritas ignorant as fuck
They make up a proportionate amount of homicides because of how they are treated for being black, not as a cause of being black.

oats 07-10-2016 03:44 PM

not playing games, @veritas, and it is definitely contradictory of people to hate part of the government that exonerates one party and protects another when both parties have demonstrably broken the law.

that the police force has been militarized already - by the very definition of the word - is not an opinion. It's the legal reality. Don't pray for the country, V. Pray for yourself, so that you may become the change that this country needs. Otherwise..........



.............#ego.

veritas 07-10-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Greed (Post 593495)
So what you are saying is, black people are a hostile breed and should be treated as such? Its that white privileged attititude that is the cause of all of this in the first place.

The dallas killer wasnt a racist and if he was a racist it was after the fact racism against his oppressors. And those cops were racist. Its like 'oh well its only cause everyone has cameras' . How many times do we have to show you they are KILLING us for you to believe it?

The badge shouldnt be a license to kill, and if it is who will hold the police to a higher standard? They don the uniform to protect us but they are afraid of the very thing they are protecting.


Soooo.....saying I want to kill all white people is not racist? What if a white man said he wanted to kill all black people?

This is lunacy

Edit: please see greeds mind. This is the thinkING that is the definition of hypocrisy and is the problem.

veritas 07-10-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 593496)
Wow veritas ignorant as fuck
They make up a proportionate amount of homicides because of how they are treated for being black, not as a cause of being black.

So correlation equals causation? Or do you just continue to not be smart enough to understand my words?

veritas 07-10-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 593497)
not playing games, @veritas, and it is definitely contradictory of people to hate part of the government that exonerates one party and protects another when both parties have demonstrably broken the law.

that the police force has been militarized already - by the very definition of the word - is not an opinion. It's the legal reality. Don't pray for the country, V. Pray for yourself, so that you may become the change that this country needs. Otherwise..........





.............#ego.



1. It is apples to oranges. Being upset that the fbi did not indite a politician is totally diff from saying we should kill cops as justice for a handful of cops who violated. Please promise me you see that. Trust me, your point sounded good and legit at first but upon analysis it was not legit.

2. Your point is not a point because you mistook thr premise I was making. You did this because you have an agenda which my words contradict so you jump when you think you have something. Going as far as to say that I am wrong. The military is government sanctioned protectors and killers. Just as the police. Certain was saying that all cops have racial biases and so we didn't need to have that Enobled by giving them authority to kill. So I simply said so we should do with the military? Go back to my first posts on this where I clearly said that thsee tragedies unfortunately spark the militarization of police forces which is not good. And too wake up.

Greed 07-10-2016 05:59 PM

Im not condoning his actions. I am however saying how many marches and vigils have to be had before everyone is treated equal. Stop killing us.

veritas 07-10-2016 06:15 PM

Wait....did I kill you or yall? You mean: take measures to prevent things like this happening or at least lessen it right?

Also....the statistics are clear.....can we not say stop killing yourselves? As that is what is far more common? Fair?

Witty 07-10-2016 08:28 PM

@veritas I agreed with your first statement...your second statement is irrelevant to the conversation, of course that is another problem and another discussion but they are separate issues.

Greed 07-10-2016 08:54 PM

No v, i am not blaming you in particular, although your second statement proves that the mindset of white americans is that it is unequivocally black peoples fault. You speak matter-of-factly when you dont have all the facts yourself. You argue police lives matter with black lives matter quotables, which is why people are split now. You have already chosen a life over another.

You do not know oppression and should not speak on it unless you have a solution that results in unity.

oats 07-10-2016 09:33 PM

@veritas your dedication to mischaracterizing arguments is strong here, and I commend you for it. The way you "summed up" my argument is so wildly off-base that you're either that dumb or that committed to the corner you've backed yourself into. The ego is strong.

I didn't mistake the premise, just pointed out that you saying the police would "one day become militarized" is dumb because it already has. And yes, the military and police should play different roles. You're playing a basic "all or nothing" rhetorical game here, which is why 90% of your responses are questions that completely misrepresent the arguments you're quoting. Or, if I were you, I'd just say:

Sooooooo, racism doesn't exist right? Soooooo police officers are incapable of wrong now? Sooooo what you're saying is nothing in life could possibly interconnected with other things, fair?

Notice how I sounded authoritative while simultaneously completely missing the point at all levels? Trust that your schtick is noted and you're fooling no one. Do pray for yourself, V. I fear you have been consumed by your desires. This country needs people like you to change. Arise from the ashes of your former self and exceed the limitations of your narrow worldview. Fair?

big baby 07-10-2016 10:05 PM

what's funny is that this is how v actually thinks. And this isn't his typical troll. Well it goes hand in hand, it's like a win/win cause this is what he hopes to achieve as a troll, but is doing it with his natural beliefs.

Junto 07-11-2016 01:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtyGIzw-hAA

Dallas shootings later that night washes this right out the headlines

& instead it'll be a bigger more militant police force at protests against killer cops, & prolly anti-Trump movements too

plus back to the talks that no one should have high-powered weapons or please more domestic surveillance

Junto 07-11-2016 01:29 AM

and fuck you again @uh-oh

Useless 07-11-2016 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 593482)
All people have racial biases. Those racial biases become more dangerous in the hands of government-empowered killers.

By ur logic white people should police white neighborhoods and black people should police black neighborhoods. So ur an advocate for segregation?

veritas 07-11-2016 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Greed (Post 593513)
No v, i am not blaming you in particular, although your second statement proves that the mindset of white americans is that it is unequivocally black peoples fault. You speak matter-of-factly when you dont have all the facts yourself. You argue police lives matter with black lives matter quotables, which is why people are split now. You have already chosen a life over another.

You do not know oppression and should not speak on it unless you have a solution that results in unity.


Glad that you simmered down. So no...I was just using your own type of logic against you. The stats are stats. Not an opinion. You say that *we need to stop killing yall* ok fine. But what about the fact that statistically black men kill black men at a much higher rate than anyone else. Real talk. This has nothing to do with race for me. I want star trek. The best man for the job regardless if they white black alien whatever. You are trying to spin my words but you cant. I hope you see my very clear words here about my stance and you see how wrong you are.

This ties in because one of the first steps is that white people have to be able to speak about black peoples lives. If we want things to get better.

veritas 07-11-2016 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 593518)
@veritas your dedication to mischaracterizing arguments is strong here, and I commend you for it. The way you "summed up" my argument is so wildly off-base that you're either that dumb or that committed to the corner you've backed yourself into. The ego is strong.

I didn't mistake the premise, just pointed out that you saying the police would "one day become militarized" is dumb because it already has. And yes, the military and police should play different roles. You're playing a basic "all or nothing" rhetorical game here, which is why 90% of your responses are questions that completely misrepresent the arguments you're quoting. Or, if I were you, I'd just say:

Sooooooo, racism doesn't exist right? Soooooo police officers are incapable of wrong now? Sooooo what you're saying is nothing in life could possibly interconnected with other things, fair?

Notice how I sounded authoritative while simultaneously completely missing the point at all levels? Trust that your schtick is noted and you're fooling no one. Do pray for yourself, V. I fear you have been consumed by your desires. This country needs people like you to change. Arise from the ashes of your former self and exceed the limitations of your narrow worldview. Fair?

Lol wut? That convoluted discourse I would expect from destroyer but not you. Your argument about my argument is not only wrong but far from the point I am making.

No duh that the police is already militarized. These events keep that process moving forward and thus these events fuel the agenda. Read my first posts silly. Don't talk to me about ego when your mind has been consumed with trying to bend my intellect to your will by accusing me of not making a point I already made. Silly.

oats 07-11-2016 06:58 AM

don't be obtuse, @veritas. I was commenting on your several incorrect rephrasing of arguments in here instead of addressing them. it's lazy and self-serving. let go of the ego.

the idea that further militarization will happen because of this type of stuff is historically inaccurate, since it started long before Black Lives Matters was a thing, and never showed any signs of stopping or slowing down. Your arguments are lazy attempts at low-hanging fruit. The idea that it's weird to hold people who are paid through tax dollars to a higher standard than criminals and gangs deserves no recognition; it's stupid on the face. Nobody denies black-on-black crime, but the issue here is police brutality that disproportionately affects minorities. Gang violence and the like is not pertinent to that discussion, especially since a great deal of effort across the country has gone towards addressing those problems, whereas large demographics (mainly conservative whites) refuse to consider that police brutality is even an issue to begin with.

yes, killing cops is bad, but it is not a mutually exclusive belief to think that cops killing civilians is also bad.

veritas 07-11-2016 07:08 AM

Who said it was bro? Not me? I think you should adress the opposite with people like greed who said the dallas shooter was not a racist...but if he was it was only cuz he was oppressed. Or that whites need to stop killing blacks when blacks kill blacks and whites far more than white cops kill blacks. See?

My penultimate point was that all these shootings riots etc will lead to martial law and that would be ideal for the agenda. You speak of ego then presume I need to arise like a phoenix from your missing me with convoluted logic and assumptions about my personal beliefs. Look at you go!

oats 07-11-2016 07:51 AM

you're obfuscating the issue of police brutality with extraneous info about other stuff. is the other stuff worth talking about separately? sure. but it has nothing to do with police killing black people on a regular basis. don't know how else I can say this. the very fact that you continue to compare police actions and that of criminal murderers etc is exactly why it's a problem. only difference is, my taxes don't pay the salaries of gang members, and nobody denies that those issues are serious problems. just repeating myself now. if you don't get it by now, not sure what else it will take.

.......ego. arise from out of its shadow that consumes your mind. believe in yourself, you can do it. I'm here to help. become your potential, V!

veritas 07-11-2016 08:05 AM

How regular is regular?
What if the gang members are on wellfare?
There is no difference between police killing blacks and the fbi investigating a politician...but there is a difference between white cops killing blacks and blacks killing blacks? How? At least my example both deals with homicide. Lololol look at you go.

I loved your elaborate tap out. Here is some face I will let you save.

oats 07-11-2016 08:21 AM

you seem to be the reason that analogies were taken off the SAT. clearly they are difficult for you to understand. I was referring to people's reactions, not to the actions themselves, especially since they come from the same #BigGovSux crowd who get offended when you condemn cops for killing civilians but think it's perfectly OK to condemn another government agency for not indicting a criminal. come on, you're not even trying anymore.

even if my tax dollars are going to welfare recipients responsible for violent crime, it's not the same, because cops exist to "serve and protect." the fact that there are very strong similarities between street criminals and police officers is EXACTLY the problem. read that sentence over and over again, please.

to carry your comparison, lol@you for getting knocked out, coming to and thinking you tapped me out. I would say look at you go, but really you're too embarrassing for anyone to look at.

anyway, this is me bowing out of this discussion. I'm sure you will consider it a win, because...


.....ego.

Destroyer 07-11-2016 09:03 AM

This must be what pissing into the wind is like

veritas 07-11-2016 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 593534)
you seem to be the reason that analogies were taken off the SAT. clearly they are difficult for you to understand. I was referring to people's reactions, not to the actions themselves, especially since they come from the same #BigGovSux crowd who get offended when you condemn cops for killing civilians but think it's perfectly OK to condemn another government agency for not indicting a criminal. come on, you're not even trying anymore.

even if my tax dollars are going to welfare recipients responsible for violent crime, it's not the same, because cops exist to "serve and protect." the fact that there are very strong similarities between street criminals and police officers is EXACTLY the problem. read that sentence over and over again, please.

to carry your comparison, lol@you for getting knocked out, coming to and thinking you tapped me out. I would say look at you go, but really you're too embarrassing for anyone to look at.

anyway, this is me bowing out of this discussion. I'm sure you will consider it a win, because...


.....ego.

Very strong similarities between street criminals and police officers? Lol wut? So less than one percent of all criminals are criminals? Orrrrrrr is 100 percent of cops criminals?

Orrrrrrr how very strong is very strong quantitatively? Orrrrrrr is this just your busted opinion fueled by the agenda disguised as truth.

veritas 07-11-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 593535)
This must be what pissing into the wind is like

Yeah bro! Totes!

NYCSPITZ 07-11-2016 01:47 PM

Articulate english korean teacher vs sub-human low-iq fucknut

lolz omg guys the bible is accurate verbatim cuz I'm an idiot I come from da bible belt with avg 70iq incest cousins and sermons on big floods BIG BIG FLOODS

veritas 07-11-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCSPITZ (Post 593547)
Articulate english korean teacher vs sub-human low-iq fucknut

lolz omg guys the bible is accurate verbatim cuz I'm an idiot I come from da bible belt with avg 70iq incest cousins and sermons on big floods BIG BIG FLOODS

Soooooooo........Hey stan.

NYCSPITZ 07-11-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 593555)
Soooooooo........Hey stan.

it would be stan except im better than u @ life u lose

Oatsmeal just decimated u

STFU

NYCSPITZ 07-11-2016 03:36 PM

yo I bet Veritas jerks off to Preacher on AMC

"AYE THER YAWLL U SEEN DAT THERE RENDITION OF GOOD N EVIL WHAT A GREAT SHOW HURRRR"

LOL...LOL...LOL...

"Very strong similarites between Stans in the eminem video with blonde hair vs really with bleached ahir?? Orrrrrrrr are you just talking about how my mother made me eat lead chips as a child vs quanitative amount of lead per househould in areas surrounded crawfish swamps??? "


LMFAOOOOOO

veritas 07-11-2016 04:31 PM

Everyone loves your new boarding gimmick! And you are really great!

NYCSPITZ 07-11-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 593562)
Everyone loves your new boarding gimmick! And you are really great!

LOL EGO

veritas 07-11-2016 05:10 PM

I swear, what with all these lil stans running around here jocking my gimmicks, that I should stop boarding. IT aint right.

NYCSPITZ 07-11-2016 05:13 PM

I swear, what with all these low iq psychologists employed within the demarcations of incest country in the south, we should burn them all alive, it ain't right.

boof 07-11-2016 05:30 PM

some of these cops are straight psychopaths. also, have we seen the baton rouge video? shit is getting extremely frightening


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