Youre missing the point.. And its funny.. The fact that you want want both sides to be racist towards each other and inhabit those feelings.. Internalize them.. Because hip hop too is very subjective That s not right lol but whatever as long i get to say cracker, we re cool, my cracker

Lol at < <<<<<. Did i hurt some of your suburbanites heart lol ruined your perception on what hip hop really is..... If none of you dont know who the last poets or gil scott heron is who were the true founders of hip hop than i got nothing to say to you herbs

r im sure I could give your backpacker ass a lesson on hip hop if youd like

you promise?

Nah.. I cant resist telling you fags that yall are bitches lol

and if you want to be real, where the fuck does a lame from Chicago get off talking about hip hops origins. this started right here in New York, stick to your Yeezus and Common.

Lol.. You kids have a lot to learn.... How did hip hop first begin in chicago wouldve been a better question ask, simpleton!? But nah.... Do your own research, faggit

SORRY GUYS I TRY TO TONE DOWN MUSIC SHIT BUT I FEEL THE NEED TO CORRECT ALL THIS


lmao im a music teacher. here's improvisation in a nutshell

improv in modern western music came about during the baroque era, where composers (mostly white) would take a theme and improvise accompaniments/variations for it, or even just whole pieces... the most famous guy to do this was bach

early 20th century improv came about when jazz guys either:

a) in big bands, wanted to fill time (keeping in mind these were the pop tunes of the day)
b) wanted to play over a well known tune (usually written by white guys like cole porter/gershwin/berlin) but couldnt acquire rights, so they would make up heads on the spot or even improvise over them, then improvise solos because that was already part of the jazz idiom thanks to big band era stuff. this was done by guys of all colors, but the most famous contrafacts (what those are called) are off of showtunes written by white guys (usually gershwin). side note, the most famous contrafacts are by black guys. and i do love the tunes. and many of jazz's great improvisers where white. hell john coltrane even learned jazz from an italian

AND THEY ABSOLUTELY MADE ACTUAL SONGS. jazz isn't just 5 minutes of soloing

as far as white guys stealing styles... parker got ripped off by 90% of sax players in his day anyway, black and white. the next real 'innovating' era was cool jazz, which was pretty much half and half (see miles' birth of the cool album)

and blues showed up around the same time as jazz. if you mean african-esque spirituals, yes, those are older than jazz and basically influenced jazz with polyrhythms, call and response, general four on the floor backbeat stuff. european music had plenty to do with rhythms as well, and both sides were fairly involved with harmony. blues is such a small part of jazz comparatively anyway


holy dissertation

if you feel like talking more about this feel free to add me on aim. late 19th century music on is my specialty, especially jazz.

Learn my history.

As in the history of me?

I know that pretty well tbh

Learn how to communicate.

Moron.

Dood.. Im willing to talk with you about it.. But just because you teach it and have a certifcate in it doesnt mean your displaying the full picture

Why was elvis needed? Because white people in those days didnt want their daughters creaming themselves over a black man, and that s real talk! You might face it here but if you go overseas like the uk or germany... They re not ashamed to admit that was what was happening here because within every genre of music there s a hero someone leading in the forefront and it has been white washed time and time again... Same way with the greeks who owed most of their philosophy to the people of the east that freudian other that these are herbs are afraid to talk about

Sorry ... That wasnt even funny... So, fuck off...

Nevermind, Sharp just destroyed your existence.

The day I take comedy advice from a brain dead faggot like yourself, will be the day I kill myself.

Literally everything you say is retarded.

Maybe its cuz ur black.

oooohhhh.

What a follower would say... Go and rread a book because during the bebop era black jazz musicians were constantly being bitten from white musicians.. Chicago is the mecca for both jazz and blues players.. Go to any bar that has blues or jazz and they will all tell you the same thing.. So now i give you permission to kill yourself

elvis was a pop culture icon which was partially because he was white. you're thinking to much though, he wasn't put in a position where he could succeed because he was white, just because he was profitable. part of that was whiteness, but in the same time you have guys like little richard, rufus thomas, booker t and the mgs and carla thomas coming up.

elivs was also from tennessee area, where recording studios would churn out the same southern twangy-rock stuff for radio... hell, his label (sun) got there first hit from a black man.

there's some validity to what you're saying, sure, but its overblown as hell. you're thinking a little too much about race, when its really just been about the money

im on aim at sharp_nine, feel free to add me. i can talk about this pretty in depth

Lmaooooo

This dudes unbelievable

Should change tue namenof this site to we get trolled everydaycees

Smh.

Lol obviously youre ignorant not stupid but ignorant lol

GOD DAMMIT ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION

THATS THE SHIT I COULD PUT A LESSON FEE ON

black horn players were biting white composers, and EVERYONE white or black was biting a few bebop players, mainly lennie tristano, billy bauer, and charlie parker - the first two being white. Miles davis is the most prolific biter in jazz history.

and chicago's jazz history is cool, but bebop era on philly/new york can't be fucked with.

@Battle Hymns I bet I know far more about your culture than you know about mine, oh cultured one.

Lmao