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Diode 04-17-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seth (Post 736860)
Fair. Just seems illogical to worry about if you and others with this outlook give federal law enough power to say it’ll stop the loopholes from happening but you left loopholes for a fight against a law that by that logic you cannot fight anyway.

You're correct.

Welcome to politics.

Immolate 04-17-2019 12:09 PM

fuck 12, fuck all illegals coming over and killing my lil girl cousins for bein black. fuck all SJWs who ignore that and say 'hey come over!'

and fuck Pelosi for getting pissed when our great president said 'fine let's dump the illegals in your faggot sanctuary cities'....oh now she mad.

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 736864)
You're correct.

Welcome to politics.

Okay. I don’t appreciate the tone implying this will show me the woke concept of how politics work. If you’re okay with just shrugging your shoulders at things that’s cool. I’ll remain a person that thinks deeper than that.

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 12:16 PM

Also that WAS politics. The culture war has killed due process and compromise. So actually I disagree.

Diode 04-17-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by seth (Post 736868)
Okay. I don’t appreciate the tone implying this will show me the woke concept of how politics work. If you’re okay with just shrugging your shoulders at things that’s cool. I’ll remain a person that thinks deeper than that.

There's nothing woke about it. Politics (particularly post-Citizens United American politics) is a war of attrition and logic is rarely involved in legislation, adjudication, or execution of anything. It's the ultimate stage of "fuck you, i got mine" and "what have you done for me lately?"

Which is why I decided to forgo using my degree on that stage. A lot of it still carries plenty of value in sales, though. Just a smaller stage is all.

Diode 04-17-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by seth (Post 736871)
Also that WAS politics. The culture war has killed due process and compromise. So actually I disagree.

I'm referring to intra-party politics above. Correct in there is no compromise between rival parties in 2019. Captain Rhetoric and Turtleface made sure of that, though you could go back to Newt easily if you're looking for where the turn really started.

Amen 04-17-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by seth (Post 736861)
@Amen I said fair in a post wanna chime in to support des and call me Veritas lite?

No thanks.

I’ve spoken my piece on the topic, no need to bring it up again.

Destroyer 04-17-2019 12:31 PM

Where’s the H come from then?
You ignorant waste of space
You’re why I’m for abortion @Immolate

Destroyer 04-17-2019 12:32 PM

Knuck, that was horrible
I’m playing football with my abortions?
Come on, man. You’re better than this.

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 736876)
Knuck, that was horrible
I’m playing football with my abortions?
Come on, man. You’re better than this.

I made the joke in a flippant, sarcastic way, actually implying and then clearly stating that if you truly believe that your post it was in response to was worth the bandwidth, then you are a fucking dumb ass

Destroyer 04-17-2019 12:37 PM

See, that was way better
Likely because it’s a mirror of an earlier one of my posts
But you see my point

Destroyer 04-17-2019 12:38 PM

Out of pure stupid, curiosity, what’s your view on the morning after pill?
Murder?

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 736879)
Out of pure stupid, curiosity, what’s your view on the morning after pill?
Murder?

It’s super ineffective and expensive. Not murder, I’m not religious about the act of sex making it the beginning of life. Hasn’t been enough time to do anything, and when it has the drug usually doesn’t work. Also most sexual encounters they’re used for aren’t going to stick without it anyhow. All around just a bad birth control.

Destroyer 04-17-2019 12:48 PM

So, what’s the exact cutoff point for you, that’s past sex, but before birth?

Diode 04-17-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seth (Post 736880)
most sexual encounters they’re used for aren’t going to stick without it anyhow.

i am highly intrigued re: your perspective that "type" of sexual encounter has anything to do with the odds of fertilization (notwithstanding following ovulation cycles)?

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 736883)
i am highly intrigued re: your perspective that "type" of sexual encounter has anything to do with the odds of fertilization (notwithstanding following ovulation cycles)?

for one yes ovulation cycles, otherwise just the fact it's usually one nighters. most people aren't THAT fertile. if they're having sex enough for it to be likely the encounter it's used for would stick, it would seem way more logical to just be on a long term solution

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 736882)
So, what’s the exact cutoff point for you, that’s past sex, but before birth?

it takes 6 to 8 days for the process to stick in a way that makes it undeniably a potential life. it's more of a moral issue to me. the fact people can know they are carrying a potential life and end it to make theirs easier, while doing little to nothing to prevent the "tragedy" from happening at first. but that would be the cut off I consider to be backed by biological evidence. aboot a week after the boom boom. before then it's just Schrodinger's womb.

Destroyer 04-17-2019 01:08 PM

Word, so here’s another question: when someone throws a newborn into a dumpster to die or leaves them in a field to die, that’s better than abortion because the kid at least got to breathe outside for a few before it died?

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 01:12 PM

In a shocking turn of events in morals, two bad things can coexist!!!

Maybe they didn’t teach common sense and basic logic when you went to college in the 80s

~RustyGunZ~ 04-17-2019 01:14 PM

And once again, you fail to be able to think critically and after multiple attempts to get it through your small brain IM NOT ADVOCATING ABORTIONS BEING ILLEGAL YOU DUMB ASS.


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