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Clout 03-04-2018 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ACTIVATE SELF (Post 646896)
Lol

Care to expound on why?

Man her score card made me ashamed to even say I like boxing. Even Oscar who is canelo handler said canelo didn't win by that kind of score haha.

Ggg won the fight but they made it a draw to not ruin canelo image and cash pool potential. Also they get more money out of a controversial rematch.

The politics in boxing is getting out of hand.

She even scored floyd vs canelo a draw... like really floyd owned canelo

ACTIVATE SELF 03-04-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clout (Post 646898)
Man her score card made me ashamed to even say I like boxing. Even Oscar who is canelo handler said canelo didn't win by that kind of score haha.

Ggg won the fight but they made it a draw to not ruin canelo image and cash pool potential. Also they get more money out of a controversial rematch.

The politics in boxing is getting out of hand.

She even scored floyd vs canelo a draw... like really floyd owned canelo

Say no more. "Politics". Explains it all.

Another topic of discussion.
@Eng, @Amen, @Clout, @sraL, @Sour joog, @NYCSPITZ

Do any of you have a sensible opinion on Floyd competing in the UFC (be it against Conor or CM Punk)?

Eŋg 03-04-2018 10:09 PM

the inclusion of kicks, knees, and elbows (though he has shown some savvy intercepting with these himself, the crafty bastard) would give him fits in a muay/thai or kickboxing bout.

add grappling into the mix, with the clinchwork and potential takedown, and he would be murdered by any top 20 opponent, maybe more. his right hand pump and clutch is one of his greatest defensive assets, but that's under a very particular subset of rules inside the boxing ring.

amen is clueless about almost everything in life but swears otherwise, the worst kind of ignorance, don't even include him in the conversation.

Amen 03-05-2018 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ACTIVATE SELF (Post 646912)
Say no more. "Politics". Explains it all.

Another topic of discussion.
@Eng, @Amen, @Clout, @sraL, @Sour joog, @NYCSPITZ

Do any of you have a sensible opinion on Floyd competing in the UFC (be it against Conor or CM Punk)?

Pipe dream. Would never happened. Rumor has it, he’s doing all kinds of marketing bullshit because Dana wants Mayweather Promotions involved with the UFC to bring in more money for UFC and fighters. That’s why he’s posting shit like stepping in the octagon but notice the Mayweather promotion on the octo and the gloves, lol.

Amen 03-05-2018 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eŋg (Post 646914)
the inclusion of kicks, knees, and elbows (though he has shown some savvy intercepting with these himself, the crafty bastard) would give him fits in a muay/thai or kickboxing bout.

add grappling into the mix, with the clinchwork and potential takedown, and he would be murdered by any top 20 opponent, maybe more. his right hand pump and clutch is one of his greatest defensive assets, but that's under a very particular subset of rules inside the boxing ring.

amen is clueless about almost everything in life but swears otherwise, the worst kind of ignorance, don't even include him in the conversation.

Your one to talk, didn’t @Diode shut you the fuck up already? Talk shit like you e ever trained or competed in ANYTHING in your life you worthless fat faggot.

Eŋg 03-05-2018 04:39 PM

me and diode have an (un)friendly banter - banning me couldn't quell me.

good looking out on pleading with the guy who coined the name glossy dick lips for you, for help, though. may as well hold your new white uncle's pockets. pathetic.

Clout 03-05-2018 05:06 PM

@eng @Amen @sraL @ACTIVE SELF

OMFG CANELO GOT CAUGHT WITH STEROIDS HAHAHAHA CLENBUTEROL!

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-t...-fight--125925

El Muffin 03-05-2018 05:09 PM

118-110?

Lmao Jesus

Clout 03-05-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ACTIVATE SELF (Post 646912)
Say no more. "Politics". Explains it all.

Another topic of discussion.
@Eng, @Amen, @Clout, @sraL, @Sour joog, @NYCSPITZ

Do any of you have a sensible opinion on Floyd competing in the UFC (be it against Conor or CM Punk)?

Oh this is easy enough,

It'd be vice versa of what mayweather did to conor. Legit carry him for the crowd gets there money-worth and then close the show with dominance. It would be a reversal of roles is all, friend.

Mayweather will not fight in the octagon, he shouldn't. Retire at 50-0 with over a billion in prize money accumulated. He earned his ride in the sunset.

That Mayweather vs Diego Corrales is one of the examples i use of a perfect fight Ala mayweather damn near perfect. I still think he loses to a Prime Sugar ray leonard imo

Amen 03-05-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clout (Post 647150)
@eng @Amen @sraL @ACTIVE SELF

OMFG CANELO GOT CAUGHT WITH STEROIDS HAHAHAHA CLENBUTEROL!

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-t...-fight--125925

Bro - Viagra is considered a drug to them man. USADA is a joke, honestly.

This could have well been exactly what they are claiming, "contamination of meats"...

HIGHLY doubt he was intentionally roiding. Well known in the US HGH is fed to farm aminals prior to butchering and sold on the market.

Clout 03-05-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 647156)
Bro - Viagra is considered a drug to them man. USADA is a joke, honestly.

This could have well been exactly what they are claiming, "contamination of meats"...

HIGHLY doubt he was intentionally roiding. Well known in the US HGH is fed to farm aminals prior to butchering and sold on the market.

Clenbuterol is a anabolic steroid tho haha. Its more than trace amounts they found. He could skate by if it was minimal trace amounts...but it was clear cut an dry a decent amount.

All meat in US has hormones. But to be flagged on a VADA drug test? it has to be nice amount that clearly shows you were using it to shed that extra bit of fat(adipose tissue) while adding a bit of lean striated muscle.

Thats Why canelo only fights once a year, so he can cycle on an off. By fight time its trace amounts or completely out of his system.

I've had to administer drug tests to athletes for school labs. You honestly are a cheat if you get flagged for a specfic substance. I'm telling you its not like a Breathalizer, if you get flagged you are mid cycle or cycling off. You can't BS ur way out of it. Thats why ppl gave mayweather shit for the IV. B/c flushing your body with saline or water can "mask" it.

Amen 03-05-2018 05:27 PM

Again, taking VIAGRA to them is also juicing man...

There urine analysis panel is out of this world. If you drink water , you fail the test, anymore LOL...

Clout 03-05-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 647168)
Again, taking VIAGRA to them is also juicing man...

There urine analysis panel is out of this world. If you drink water , you fail the test, anymore LOL...

With Vada they allow Viagra and Blood pressure stuff. But you must have a doctors prescription and list it. Thats why Luis Ortiz was given a second chance. Because they saw it was blood pressure medicine to steady him. It was a non-anabolic steroid. But a steroid nontheless. So it actually would not enhance his performance.

& yes he was caught like canelo was with actual anabolic compounds in his system before. Thats why he is labeled a cheat. But some stuff as long as a doctor prescribed it and you list it on yuor VADA form, you're golden =). Its not just urine its always blood samples too =).

Long boring ass lecture in class on it. The lab was fun tho!

Amen 03-05-2018 05:33 PM

Of course anything prescribed is valid. That's common knowledge.

Like I said, I don't think he was intentionally roiding man... You never know anymore, tho.

Clout 03-05-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 647174)
Of course anything prescribed is valid. That's common knowledge.

Like I said, I don't think he was intentionally roiding man... You never know anymore, tho.

If its clen? he definitely is. Thats just from my experience and knowledge of it. For it to spit out clenbuteral as what was flagged its not trace amount. You won't get that kind of sample from eating "street tacos in mexico" He is a rich man. I seen his 24/7 he eats organic meat alot that his mom cooks. So theres not much processing chemically with that line of food.

uh-oh 03-05-2018 06:04 PM

i don't think it is humanly possible to eat enough roided up cows to get the steroids at a detectable level from eating said cows

thats some ubereem level horsemeat nonsense excuse

if he wants to make a believable excuse, that still doesn't excuse him in the eyes of anyone but his fans, he would claim over the counter dick pills like jon jones

shit thats made in labs where roids are also made, so he can say he didn't knowingly take them, just got a bad batch of dick pills

also to the floyd/ufc thing

i don't think they would even milk it. i think it would be 1 minute long at best against the worst ufc fighter. hell bellator or anybody. floyd would get annihilated

Amen 03-05-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 647202)
i don't think it is humanly possible to eat enough roided up cows to get the steroids at a detectable level from eating said cows

thats some ubereem level horsemeat nonsense excuse

if he wants to make a believable excuse, that still doesn't excuse him in the eyes of anyone but his fans, he would claim over the counter dick pills like jon jones

shit thats made in labs where roids are also made, so he can say he didn't knowingly take them, just got a bad batch of dick pills

also to the floyd/ufc thing

i don't think they would even milk it. i think it would be 1 minute long at best against the worst ufc fighter. hell bellator or anybody. floyd would get annihilated

If he was taken down, sure - he would get beat. No one in the right mind will stand up with him and if they did - they are stupid. Or they would want to test his ability with smaller gloves.

He would never fight in the UFC. I think it's just a strategic marketing tactic to get Mayweather Promotions going for the UFC to promote fighters and get more money.

uh-oh 03-05-2018 06:12 PM

no doubt it would never happen

but even a halfway competent kickboxer/muaythai guy could stand with him easily

he has a boxers stance, he would get leg kicked to oblivion, and if he wanted to let his hands go he'd get dumped on his head

he's probably the most technically proficient boxer of all time. but that is probably the least helpful aspect in MMA

espescially at his weight classes

if you are an amazing boxer at heavyweight you stand more of a chance, as long as you can keep distance and keep them animals off you and check leg kicks. much more opportunities to get off.

at 135-155 tho there is no hope. he ain't ko'ing anybody with one shot, and all them dudes can bang out

Eŋg 03-05-2018 06:29 PM

i already covered this.

uh-oh 03-05-2018 07:11 PM

oh word i was a bit worried i had to explain that honestly. but it gave me my daily opportunity to feel knowledgeable lol

to be honest i was surprised this thread was so long and i didn't want to read through it but just wanted to jump in

IM GONE NOW


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