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Ghost1 05-12-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Malachi (Post 481600)
Kendrick Lamar was a good answer

Shut up pussy

Fig 05-12-2015 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible (Post 481563)
How has no one said UGK?

Straight up!

Fart 05-12-2015 04:51 PM

I think Encore is far from his worst album
last two...yeah

timeless 05-12-2015 05:15 PM

glad someone said UGK

havent listened to an Em album in full since the eminem show, he shouldve stopped then and kept producing/acting.

i feel the only nas album that was actually bad was Life Is Good. Just cant get down with it. Even nastradamus has some good jams with mobb deep. i still bump 'come get me' all the time.

canibus was always good

Blackalicious comes to mind

Certain 05-12-2015 06:07 PM

Canibus has 12 studio albums, and almost no one can name more than six for a reason.

Fart 05-12-2015 06:09 PM

i can't name even one

fraze 05-12-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481338)
Idlewild.

Technically Idlewild was a movie soundtrack. I don't know if I would count that the same as the other albums because there are a lot of extra artistic constraints. And Idlewild still had dope songs. Which ones were wack exactly?

big baby 05-12-2015 06:17 PM

who cares

Certain 05-12-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fraze (Post 481643)
Technically Idlewild was a movie soundtrack. I don't know if I would count that the same as the other albums because there are a lot of extra artistic constraints. And Idlewild still had dope songs. Which ones were wack exactly?

Idlewild had a lot of corny extensions to The Love Below (which I don't like but wouldn't call bad). I didn't like much of the album, but "Idlewild Blue" was probably the worst thing Andre 3000 ever put on wax.

timeless 05-13-2015 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481639)
Canibus has 12 studio albums, and almost no one can name more than six for a reason.

whats so bad about canibus?

rip the jacker is in my top 5 all time

mic club is top 10 maybe, lyrical law top 20 if i really think. i dont keep lists sorry.

other than that, his voice hardy rides a beat and can be annoying at times. i appreciate his dedication at times towards lyricism rather than the overall track itself. thats prolly how i would approach the mic and most would hate it prolly.

poet laureate II is def in my top 5 jams of all time

oats 05-13-2015 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oats murkel (Post 481507)
I've met a kid who said Encore by Eminem was his favorite album, which I think is easily his worst (and overall a legit bad album). So, there's that.

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Originally Posted by Bagsworth Bentley (Post 481613)
Lol if encore was the first album slim released it would have been his last. That shit legit top 5 worst rap albums oat

I'm confused - but I agree.

I think Encore is a bad album, his next worse being Recovery, but I wouldn't call that a "bad" album even though I can't stand to listen to it personally. MMLP2 is solid, and Relapse is dope. None of them are as good as his first 3. Infinite barely registers, only good in hindsight, like going "awww" over celebrity baby pictures.

point being, Em is top 5 GOAT imo, but he def has not had a flawless career.

Mr. J 05-13-2015 03:19 AM

Wait...Em in the top 5 GOAT?


how compute oatmeal?

oats 05-13-2015 03:33 AM

his lyrical ability, the extent that he penetrated pop culture, among other things. When I think of "greatest" it is a mix of technical ability, critical acclaim, longevity, influence, and popularity with fans. Em's got all of those.

Ghost1 05-13-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by oats murkel (Post 481743)
I'm confused - but I agree.

I think Encore is a bad album, his next worse being Recovery, but I wouldn't call that a "bad" album even though I can't stand to listen to it personally. MMLP2 is solid, and Relapse is dope. None of them are as good as his first 3. Infinite barely registers, only good in hindsight, like going "awww" over celebrity baby pictures.

point being, Em is top 5 GOAT imo, but he def has not had a flawless career.

I mean of all time....not u NIGGA lol

An I been meaning to re run thru PTSD to respond back to u informed.....all I remember tho is I hated the futuristic Sci fi concept bullshit he was doing.

Certain 05-13-2015 12:20 PM

The thing is that Pharoahe Monch and Royce da 5'9" are capable of making bad music sound like good rap because they're two of the most skilled ever. @oats murkel seems to be fine with that. I'm not. A lot of guys can rap. Very, very few consistently make great music.

I love Death Is Certain. Independent's Day was a huge disappointment, mostly on the production front.

I feel like Pharoahe Monch has never in his entire career (even with Organized Konfusion) had producers to push him into showing his skills without excess. He sings way, way too often, and he's not good at it, and he goes more obscure than he needs to and raps over bad beats too often.

oats 05-13-2015 12:29 PM

I don't think I've ever listened to Independence Day. Is that an album proper? I was thinking Rock City, DIC, Street Hop, and SIC were his only 4 studio albums.

I like most of Pharoahe's production post Internal Affairs, which was hit or miss. Ultimately they're both skilled and dynamic enough to make the most of their beats.

@bags I re listened to PTSD and still think it's dope. You should too.

Certain 05-13-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by timeless (Post 481742)
whats so bad about canibus?

rip the jacker is in my top 5 all time

mic club is top 10 maybe, lyrical law top 20 if i really think. i dont keep lists sorry.

other than that, his voice hardy rides a beat and can be annoying at times. i appreciate his dedication at times towards lyricism rather than the overall track itself. thats prolly how i would approach the mic and most would hate it prolly.

poet laureate II is def in my top 5 jams of all time

Who said anything about bad? The bold part is why he doesn't belong on this list, of people who never make bad albums.


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