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E Tha Real 11-12-2014 12:09 AM

Ironically jazz trumpet, i played in jazz band and combos for college. I can play classical. But i can play any instrument as i went through all the pedagogy classes. I prefer piano, trumpet and sax. Music ed myself, on my last semester of student teach.

Get the book scales for jazz improvisation by dan haerle and aeborsold vol.26 scale book. I hope you know your scales!

Sharp 11-12-2014 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by E Tha Real (Post 436339)
Ironically jazz trumpet, i played in jazz band and combos for college. I can play classical. But i can play any instrument as i went through all the pedagogy classes. I prefer piano, trumpet and sax. Music ed myself, on my last semester of student teach.

Get the book scales for jazz improvisation by dan haerle and aeborsold vol.26 scale book. I hope you know your scales!

I had all those instrument pedagogy classes too and we both know you can't really play any instrument lmao

I know scales but honestly think I'm better off without them. I've heard a ton of guys (guitar/sax mostly) that just play scales on scales on scales and so many of these solos just turn out repetitive, corny, and boxed in. Used to do school big bands/combos but the big band is just a wind ensemble with a fucked up percussion section and the combo people were all kinda circlejerkers so I quit that and started playing out whenever I could.

I like major scale/modes of it for aural training but after that I'm a bigger fan of harmony - arpeggios/extensions/substitutions - because the sound I hear from most scale oriented people sounds chord to chord, disconnected, and a bit archaic. That said I've seen a few people who are all about scales that kill it every time so to each their own, but for learning aural skills, voice leading, and other aspects of improv I think memorizing the double augminished bebopdebop harmelodic minjor scales in all 12 keys isn't the way to go

El Muffin 11-12-2014 12:31 AM

hahn

arpeggios n archipelagos n shit

Blanco Bishop 11-12-2014 12:56 AM

Vote- Harmony

It's what runs rap really.

E Tha Real 11-12-2014 01:49 AM

Yeah I think the ped classes get a bad rep. For what its worth. I want to teach music. So i took my ped classes seriously and had experiance from highschool. I helped tutor on instruments as i learned them. lol I bought a ton of instruments and practice my ass off.

I love tritone substitutions myself. Your best friends in school are piano players and drummers. Listen to Freddie Hubbard and how his solos bring out the drummers. Get in a combo because soloing in front of ppl will make you better. Jam sessions and hookah lounges are great for craft beers. But you need to get exposure and feedback from friends.

Scales are like learning a new language. They can be difficult and make you want to quit. I know one guy he just plays dorian, loc and super loc. the dudes a beast. Another person just practices licks in all 12 keys and for him it works. Ppl who just play scales in solos are lame, kinda like aeborsold at times lol

Sharp 11-12-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by E Tha Real (Post 436369)
I love tritone substitutions myself. Your best friends in school are piano players and drummers. Listen to Freddie Hubbard and how his solos bring out the drummers. Get in a combo because soloing in front of ppl will make you better. Jam sessions and hookah lounges are great for craft beers. But you need to get exposure and feedback from friends.

Woahwoahwoah I'm not going to these muzzl3 jams where dudes walk in and freely improvise on the electric megaphone. I go to 1 session run by a temple professor, one by an Eastman professor, went to a mow defunct mam run by Mike Boone and all of them have a caliber of musician I have never seen in school groups. My school's jazz scene feels like the study of what certain people did from 1920-59.

Plus I had 2 years of what felt like jazz scales lessons and I felted more restricted. It's just chord to chord thinking instead of relying on your ear, and at the same time your ear isn't used tohearing musical ideas so much as scales. I know my scales I just wish I knew less of them.

Trritone subs and freddie Hubbard taught me a lot in high school, but when I say subs I'm talking closer reharmonizing cause Tritone subs are just extensions of altered dominant function chords. I'll throw up some reharms I do and get the piano player at one of those jams (temple professor) to evaluate if you want. But if you actually are in to jazz get out and play please

Swerve 11-12-2014 10:20 AM

So ignoring all this other random stuff. I think that I will be signing up.

Sharp 11-12-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Swerve (Post 436456)
So ignoring all this other random stuff. I think that I will be signing up.

Already going, can you put this in the sign in thread?

Swerve 11-12-2014 11:11 AM

No.

El Muffin 11-12-2014 11:16 AM

swerve u fgt come get this wrk my nigga

Sharp 11-12-2014 02:08 PM

Okay

But I'm signing your bitch ass in

E Tha Real 11-12-2014 03:26 PM

Yeah in my jazz band we started bringing in charts because the prof was on some 1920's shit. You'd be surprised, he let us run some goodwin and jaco tunes. Maybe your school needs forward thinkers, who challenge the professors to play newer music.

Yeah i don't do reharms., my piano skills aren't their yet. I just rip through chord changes o i can hear them for my horn. Yeah i love jazz but gigging with legit bands seem locked up to profs and old dudes. I just moved out to NC thinking i should take a few years to hardcore practice and get lessons from the big names out here while teaching. Then try to get in a legit symphonic job, since the money is more competitive. But as you know those spots are professors too and music at their level isnt picked up with a bachelors or masters. Good isnt good enough.

Sharp 11-12-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E Tha Real (Post 436563)
Yeah in my jazz band we started bringing in charts because the prof was on some 1920's shit. You'd be surprised, he let us run some goodwin and jaco tunes. Maybe your school needs forward thinkers, who challenge the professors to play newer music.

Yeah i don't do reharms., my piano skills aren't their yet. I just rip through chord changes o i can hear them for my horn. Yeah i love jazz but gigging with legit bands seem locked up to profs and old dudes. I just moved out to NC thinking i should take a few years to hardcore practice and get lessons from the big names out here while teaching. Then try to get in a legit symphonic job, since the money is more competitive. But as you know those spots are professors too and music at their level isnt picked up with a bachelors or masters. Good isnt good enough.

I gig around playing jazz. It's just knowing people and being a good business person

My college's band was progressive, ton of contemporary latin/maria schnieder kinda shit. Just playing in the big band is constricting as fuck and really shouldn't even be called jazz. It's just a wind ensemble. But you don't need to actually need to use piano to reharm just operate under those changes... its a sense of harmony and aurals. I literally teach other music majors how to do it because they don't get this sort of shit playing in schools

jam sessions man

I got some free time tonight before going out and I'm all for reharmonizing the FUCK outta a few tunes if you want a lesson


either way good luck with the symphony shit, I can't really stand practicing technique and playing a bunch of prewritten music nearly enough to hang with that lol.

El Muffin 11-12-2014 05:51 PM

Deliverance Dueling Banjos

Sharp 11-12-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Muff (Post 436631)
Deliverance Dueling Banjos

you want me to change the underlying chord progresson to the dueling banjos? cause that's all chords lol

Mike Wrecka 11-12-2014 06:40 PM

inb4 this one time at band camp


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