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Diode 09-03-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141411)
rogen started out doing stand up since he was like 15

and the fact he has co wrote the funniest movies of the decade pretty much sums up his ability

not to mention they said most of the back and forth(roasting) during this is the end was all improve on the spot

the guys write there own shit and is good at it

see follow up comments

rogen's delivery is cringeworthy and hill is a lost puppy.

the best deliveries of the night went to ross, silverman (who i usually loathe), and legerro.. guess why?

THEY ARE VETERAN STAND UP COMICS

Certain 09-03-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141406)
but mos tof em write there own shit, esp jeff ross i watched him talking bout being a roastmaster in an interview

It's probably like this: They sit in a room and brainstorm shit and determine who to give what material and how to make certain jokes better and shit like that. They work on phrasing. They work on sequencing.

These things aren't haphazardly thrown together with everyone getting bombed and staggering up to the stage to ramble and throw out some jokes.

Really, it's how everything should be done. Even at a site like this, take the tag tournament for example. You should be talking over your lines with your partner, working on how to word them most effectively and how to better spin the name plays. This netceeing stuff isn't serious enough to make that worthwhile, but it would be a big advantage to anyone who took that time.

So yes, Jeff Ross writes his own material. But he probably doesn't write all of it, and he definitely goes over it with the other writers beforehand, again, if only to let them know what he's doing. And when you're a professional comedy writer listening to another professional comedy writer read his latest material, of course you're going to say "I didn't like that line," or "You should start with that," or "That's a great idea, but you've got to add something to it."

That's just professionalism.

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:11 PM

i dont think rogan had a bad delivery

i think hill just seemed to be having a good ass time and was enjoying himself

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 141416)
It's probably like this: They sit in a room and brainstorm shit and determine who to give what material and how to make certain jokes better and shit like that. They work on phrasing. They work on sequencing.

These things aren't haphazardly thrown together with everyone getting bombed and staggering up to the stage to ramble and throw out some jokes.

Really, it's how everything should be done. Even at a site like this, take the tag tournament for example. You should be talking over your lines with your partner, working on how to word them most effectively and how to better spin the name plays. This netceeing stuff isn't serious enough to make that worthwhile, but it would be a big advantage to anyone who took that time.

So yes, Jeff Ross writes his own material. But he probably doesn't write all of it, and he definitely goes over it with the other writers beforehand, again, if only to let them know what he's doing. And when you're a professional comedy writer listening to another professional comedy writer read his latest material, of course you're going to say "I didn't like that line," or "You should start with that," or "That's a great idea, but you've got to add something to it."

That's just professionalism.

thats like saying he doesnt write his own stand up routine

Inno 09-03-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 141412)
* note i didn't say they can't be stand up writers. much like with rapping, some guys are amazing joke writers and terrible with delivery.


@God Of War


this tbh.


I mean no one is denying hes a great writer...but stand up is a different beast man...you honestly think he can do what jeff ross can do?...

also..alot of the jokes and improve they do works because they feed off each other..in stand up your are alone..

whats gonna happen to seth when no one is feeding him the energy he needs to say something funny?

and lets be honest...the jokes they do are for movies..none of those jokes would hold merit on a comedy stage.

Certain 09-03-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141419)
thats like saying he doesnt write his own stand up routine

It's not, though, because his standup is his own thing. This is a scripted television show. It's very, very different. The stakes are higher, and there are more people involved.

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 141420)
@God Of War


this tbh.


I mean no one is denying hes a great writer...but stand up is a different beast man...you honestly think he can do what jeff ross can do?...

also..alot of the jokes and improve they do works because they feed off each other..in stand up your are alone..

whats gonna happen to seth when no one is feeding him the energy he needs to say something funny?

and lets be honest...the jokes they do are for movies..none of those jokes would hold merit on a comedy stage.

seemed to work great last night ot to mention he has been doing stand up since he was 13

rogen is a beast and will be a comedic legend

suck a dick haters

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 141421)
It's not, though, because his standup is his own thing. This is a scripted television show. It's very, very different. The stakes are higher, and there are more people involved.

what makes u so sure it is scripted? u cant tell me fucking mike tyson didnt write his own shit or garybusey didnt write his

u need to read more on this before you talk like u know

Inno 09-03-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141423)
what makes u so sure it is scripted? u cant tell me fucking mike tyson didnt write his own shit or garybusey didnt write his

u need to read more on this before you talk like u know

u honestly think they let mike Tyson, stevo and the situation up there...with out knowing or having some kind of premonition as to what they where gonna do?

im sure they didn't have lines and they didn't have specific shit like a movie set would have...but im dam sure they sat there and discussed things...



THATS EXACTLY WHY THEY WHERE UP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE....


so how is that not scripted?

Certain 09-03-2013 11:17 PM

I've worked on TV specials before, though nothing as big as a Comedy Central roast. Also, in the past, many of them have referenced "I told Comedy Central I wouldn't curse" or, one I saw a couple days ago from Drew Carey at the Hugh Hefner roast, "They told me I couldn't call (Osama bin Laden) a "towelhead," so let's go with "motherfucker."

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 141425)
u honestly think they let mike Tyson, stevo and the situation up there...with out knowing or having some kind of premonition as to what they where gonna do?

THATS EXACTLY WHY THEY WHERE UP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE....


so how is that not scripted?

due i have every roast since back when hugh heffner was roasted

if they wrote for them mike tysons, steve o's, gary buseys etc would of been much better then they was.

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:19 PM

and jeff ross said all the comedians write ther own material and ther is writers there to help the non comedians if they want it he said it on a podcast

Diode 09-03-2013 11:21 PM

uhhhh.. they did write the jokes for all non-comics at these roasts. this is not conjecture.

IT IS KNOWN

google it dude.

sometimes they decide to ignore the writers and bomb (sup situation), but everyone is written for. what you get is a highly edited version of what happened on top of THAT.

Inno 09-03-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141428)
due i have every roast since back when hugh heffner was roasted

if they wrote for them mike tysons, steve o's, gary buseys etc would of been much better then they was.

that's just it bro...their not going to do that because it makes it to obvious...how obvious would it have been if the situation actually told funny jokes...


you would of said..."he aint right that shit, its to good"


so what do they do...they play to the character....or in this case write to the character...im not saying these people are fake or anything like that...what im saying is, the people that write these people know who they are writing for..so...they write accordingly..

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 141431)
uhhhh.. they did write the jokes for all non-comics at these roasts. this is not conjecture.

IT IS KNOWN

google it dude.

sometimes they decide to ignore the writers and bomb (sup situation), but everyone is written for. what you get is a highly edited version of what happened on top of THAT.

you can get the unedited versions,a nd also jeff ross has been doing them since 98 i think he would know and he said the writers are only htere if they want them. if they dont want them they dont use them and the comedians write there own material the writers is only for the cleebrity appearances who arent comedians. and thats only IF they want it. he said the shit live on radio. dude has no reason to lie

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 141434)
that's just it bro...their not going to do that because it makes it to obvious...how obvious would it have been if the situation actually told funny jokes...


you would of said..."he aint right that shit, its to good"


so what do they do...they play to the character....or in this case write to the character...im not saying these people are fake or anything like that...what im saying is, the people that write these people know who they are writing for..so...they write accordingly..

thats fucking stupid, ross has no reason to lie

Inno 09-03-2013 11:24 PM

we aint talking about actual comedians...ofcourse they write there own stuff..

but people like trump, Tyson, stevo, trump....all those people where written for.

trump

uh-oh 09-03-2013 11:37 PM

nah man every single one of them is getting fed jokes

every single one

jeff ross included. he isnt writing 100 percent of his jokes for these. i heard him say so on a podcast on deathsquad

tony hinchcliffe is a regular writer for these, and deathsquad regular, they write for everybody

like other people have mentioned, you dont have to use the writers. 99 percent do. comedians included, even if its just taking the premise and making there own joke from it

this is all fact

i feel like im telling you guys wrestling is fake. im sorry.

but yo no one is downplaying seth rogen or jonah hill, they aint stand ups tho. they are hilarious comedic actors, rogen writes dope funny scripts, that doesnt make them a stand up comedian, improv is not stand up.

chris farley is improv

funniest dude ever probably, but hearing him try and do stand up would be weird as shit. just put a camera on him and loose him on the populace

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 141469)
nah man every single one of them is getting fed jokes

every single one

jeff ross included. he isnt writing 100 percent of his jokes for these. i heard him say so on a podcast on deathsquad

tony hinchcliffe is a regular writer for these, and deathsquad regular, they write for everybody

like other people have mentioned, you dont have to use the writers. 99 percent do. comedians included, even if its just taking the premise and making there own joke from it

this is all fact

i feel like im telling you guys wrestling is fake. im sorry.

but yo no one is downplaying seth rogen or jonah hill, they aint stand ups tho. they are hilarious comedic actors, rogen writes dope funny scripts, that doesnt make them a stand up comedian, improv is not stand up.

chris farley is improv

funniest dude ever probably, but hearing him try and do stand up would be weird as shit. just put a camera on him and loose him on the populace


prove it, because i can link u to the podcast where he says he and the other comedians all write there jokes and the writers is only ther for the celebs who need them

so prove what u say cuz i dont beleive it right now ur rawnmo'ing

uh-oh 09-03-2013 11:41 PM

dudes like patrice o'neal didnt take jokes from anyone tho

neither did jeselnick

neither did a good amount of them honestly. the real stand ups. 99 percent is overkill lol, but the point they were making on the podcast was if they're not known for clowning people and stand up, they're probably reading jokes someone wrote for them

which makes sense

i could outrhyme all of you textually. the people would be more entertained. but i can't write punchlines at all. so its just me saying dope stuff.

seth rogen and them dudes are like that. they just say dope stuff. they aren't from the setup punch mentality

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 141489)
dudes like patrice o'neal didnt take jokes from anyone tho

neither did jeselnick

neither did a good amount of them honestly. the real stand ups. 99 percent is overkill lol, but the point they were making on the podcast was if they're not known for clowning people and stand up, they're probably reading jokes someone wrote for them

which makes sense

i could outrhyme all of you textually. the people would be more entertained. but i can't write punchlines at all. so its just me saying dope stuff.

seth rogen and them dudes are like that. they just say dope stuff. they aren't from the setup punch mentality

seth rogen started as a stand up comedian

uh-oh 09-03-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141487)
prove it, because i can link u to the podcast where he says he and the other comedians all write there jokes and the writers is only ther for the celebs who need them

so prove what u say cuz i dont beleive it right now ur rawnmo'ing

http://www.deathsquad.tv/deathsquad-show-8/

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 141505)

then ross is a liar because he says somethign completely different on adam corrollas podcast want the link?

uh-oh 09-03-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141497)
seth rogen started as a stand up comedian


dave chappelle was in movies. he had a tv show etc. he was a stand up comedian. why? because he DOES stand up comedy. rogen doesnt do stand up comedy.

aziz is a stand up comic.

he actually puts stand up material out. kevin hart is a comic. etc. its not a hard concept to grasp.

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 141515)
dave chappelle was in movies. he had a tv show etc. he was a stand up comedian. why? because he DOES stand up comedy. rogen doesnt do stand up comedy.

aziz is a stand up comic.

he actually puts stand up material out. kevin hart is a comic. etc. its not a hard concept to grasp.

ROGEN STARTED DOIGN STAND UP COMEDY thats not a hard fucking concept to grasp

Diode 09-03-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141520)
ROGEN STARTED DOIGN STAND UP COMEDY thats not a hard fucking concept to grasp

AND HE SUCKED AT IT WHICH IS WHY HE STOPPED

Inno 09-03-2013 11:51 PM

lol I like this uh oh seems wise beyond his locks

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:53 PM

im done talking bout this shit, dont feel like arguing over something this stupid


i probably had 300 dvd's of stand up shows i know what a stand up comedian is, i said rogen was a stand up comedian so he knows how to write that type of material and you just ignore that

here is a quote from hill when then did a stand up comedy tour

and Hill admits his dreams of becoming a regular stand-up were crushed by watching Rogen's comedy routine kill crowds with laughter while he got heckled on stage.

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:53 PM

so obivously he didnt suck to bad

Diode 09-03-2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141533)
im done talking bout this shit, dont feel like arguing over something this stupid


i probably had 300 dvd's of stand up shows i know what a stand up comedian is, i said rogen was a stand up comedian so he knows how to write that type of material and you just ignore that

here is a quote from hill when then did a stand up comedy tour

and Hill admits his dreams of becoming a regular stand-up were crushed by watching Rogen's comedy routine kill crowds with laughter while he got heckled on stage.

WOW TWO BEST FRIENDS SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER

PancakeBrah 09-03-2013 11:54 PM

I'm still shocked you're a white person, GoW.

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 141536)
WOW TWO BEST FRIENDS SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER

its documented and proven , the shit isnt hidden in some secret cia file somewhere

ive seen tons of other people give rogen stand up props even adam sandler

Diode 09-03-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 141542)
its documented and proven , the shit isnt hidden in some secret cia file somewhere

ive seen tons of other people give rogen stand up props even adam sandler

i'm going to need chyeahhhh to verify this

God Of War 09-03-2013 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 141546)
i'm going to need chyeahhhh to verify this

lmao i hate u im not being TROLLED NO MORE

Orc 09-05-2013 03:04 PM

samberg was terrible wow and made me cringe

Alvin Karpis 09-05-2013 06:35 PM

^^ to be honest all of them were below par except for jeff ross

like i said in that other thread, w/out greg gilardo, rip, and anthony jeselnik, the roast was lacking the wit

even lisa l does her thing


jeff ross went in though


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