Right, I don't think y'all understand how short 30 feet is to a fucking tiger

you need to think abotu what your saying...hitting a target thirty feet away is much easier then a target a hundred feet away right? and the uzi is a better up close gun then the rifle. its not hard to figure out bro a close up target is much easier to hit then a further away one

just because YOU dont know anyone with that knowledge, doesnt mean i dont.

remember we had a discussion like this before? dont assume based on your experience solely?

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i honestly do not know about this. but if 5 men with rifles didn't hit the lion in its brain, i doubt that one man with an uzi will.

they were using rifles

there is a reason the military carries pistols and other close combat weapons, at a certain range its just inefficient to try using a long rifle

give one of those hunters an uzi and he's painting the sand red

But that's looking past things like...infected cuts with nothing to disinfect them - death....winter months, regardless of whether you have a shelter or not, you could still easily die from the cold..no heating, no oil, no nothing - death. Relying on being able to find things to kill during those months without having a knowledge of the area or which animals are where in which seasons - Death.

The list goes on and on...it is not just a case of hunting and eating and building a house lol there are so many more factors to take into account...we don't have this knowledge any more, we don't get taught how to do these things. We get sick, we go see a doctor. We get cold, we get someone to fix the heating, we get too warm, we get someone to put air conditioning in. Tiny little things that we take for granted could easily kill us in nature.

You may survive, but the odds are you and everyone with you will die.

I am not assuming...I am talking about the average man.

The average man does not have this knowledge and skill...that is just fact lol

tha average man has natural instinct to survive and eat lol

But instinct is useless without knowledge...instinct will make us try to eat and survive, but without the knowledge of HOW to do it...what use is that?

a herdsman killed a lion with his bare hands


that dude wasnt trained to fight lions with his bare hands lol yet he won

Well done him...I'm not saying it can't happen or doesn't happen, I'm saying if me or you had been in that position we would more than likely not be here today.

just like the average man who listens to tech 9 is white

its science bro!

but yo let me ask you this, do you know your enviornment? i dont know where you live, but do you know the native animals and plants and shit?

i live in ohio yo, im in the city but im a short drive from da stickssss

i know whats around here. deers, squirrels, rabbits, chipmonks, mice, coyotes. tons of birds, all of which you can eat. give me a fucking bb gun and half a day and i'll feed a family of 4, 40 birds lol. fucking TURKEYS etc, no natural predators because we hunted them to extinction

i wouldnt know what plants to eat tho, but i know what a maple tree looks like. so im having fucking sweet cardinal yo marinated in maple syrup

all they put on tv is survival shows for the past 10 years

i think the average dude would do alright

like you said the worst thing is infections and shit, but AYO, thats been our nemesis forever. even when we did have "survival instincts" by your standards a simple cut on your foot could mean death

well, i do actually believe u. i don't know for a fact how accurate an uzi is at close range. personally, i still doubt u are gonna be able to hit a tiger so accurately that he will die before he can kill u. but whether or not u can be so accurate is highly speculative and in the end determined by sheer chance and luck. so i won't continue to talk ab this. lol

gd points tho, friends.

Lol you are reaching now.

Do you know what I mean by the average man?

I am not talking about you or me or anyone in particular...I'm talking about the average, 9-5 worker, sitting in an office, with healthcare and dental care, if they had to fend for themselves the odds are they would not survive because they don't know how to.


And also, when we DID live in the wild and hunted to live we knew which things were poisonous, we also knew which things would help with illnesses, we had knowledge of medicinal plants that the average man does not have any more. You're delusional if you think we could just step out into nature and be ok....we are not conditioned for it, we don't have the knowledge to survive.

Again...when I say the average man I mean the typical man, I'm aware there are people who could survive but if you picked a random person and put him in that environment he would be more likely to die than survive...that is just the truth lol

Also, good luck surviving in the wild based on half baked knowledge gained from a TV show.

actually them tv shows and movies can teach you how to start fires, skin animals etc.

also if your so sheltered that you can not figure out how to make shelter, hunt for food, know atleast 1 to 2 good berries and etc then i feel sorry because thats not an average human

But that isn't enough to survive for longer than maybe a few days tho.

Eventually, the odds are you will die.

you highly underestimate the ability of man maybe its just different in ireland

Just got reminded of a quote from Bear Grylls (One of the world's leading survivalists) from a UK panel show based on opinion polls, when asked if people thought they would survive in the wilderness.

"I think most people probably think they could survive, but I think they probably could not"

Go and live in nature for a few weeks, with nothing but your clothes and your mind...then come back to me.

i come from a background of rednecks who is more comfortable in the woods then in a house...the woods dont scare me. i know how to fish, hunt, skin a pig a deer a squirell i know what time of the year squirells isnt diseased. birds.

and thats from someone who lived in a city and just visited that part of the family on weekends and etc


people are more capable then you think

The average person does not have that knowledge tho lol

What is it about the word average that people don't get? The average man (not based on your environment, nor mine, nor anyone else here...I am talking about the basic survival knowledge of a random man you see on the streets) does not know how to skin a fucking squirrel lol

I spent most of my summers in forests, camping and building shelters, making fires, catching rabbits and shit.

But doing that is MUCH different than LIVING in the wilderness. we have comforts and luxuries that we are so used to and accustomed to that most of us just would not know what to do or how to survive for any significant length of time.

survival hasnt got shit to do with it tho man. if u can hunt u can eat. if u can start a fire you can boil water etc

most humans have this knowledge is what im trying to say

a cut can kill u now if u dont go get it checked up so its no different in the woods.

i remember i learned how to make a fire with the two stick thing from seeing it on a movie and me and my friends wanted to try it when we was young and we wouldnt be trusted with a lighter. we saw it on a show, went and spent like a day trying it till one of us actually did it. my point is the average human is smarter then you think and has more survival knowledge then you let on


no one is dependant on ac or heat and can live with out them. it might suck but it can happen.....wild animals is different sure u can get attacked but u can in every day life to lol snakes spiders etc

Nobody is dependant on heat or AC?

You must live in mild climate....because aroud the world LOTS of people are dependant on things like that, and LOTS of people die without it.

I don't know how you would expect to survive the winter months, hypothermia, colds, flu, etc etc.

Without hospitals and doctors we are pretty useless, also there would be things like vitamin deficiencies, scurvy, not getting enough protein or other major dietary staples.

There are so many things that could kill us that we take for granted because we have things like vaccines, and we have doctors who know about things like that.

The man with the Uzi would win, unless he's a Far Cry Pirate in which case he's fucked.

so witty

what exactly are you arguing?

that the average person couldnt survive alone?

no shit. the baddest dude of all time who knows everything can't survive alone forever. i dont get what point you are trying to prove

man im beggining to think your the one hooked on the shit we have now adays. elder folks die from the heat. theres not alot of places where you cant get warm some how and not die from the cold. and the places that is like that is a place you put yourself in anyways. a thousand things can kill you spending an hour outside of your house. and a thousand things inside it. as i said its no different. being dependant on something doesnt mean you die without it.

witty the way your talking is if the electricity went off for good that we would be wiped out as humans

Lol ok Tarzan.

I think you're completely wrong on this one, and I think it's because you aren't taking a lot of important things into account but word.

This discussion isn't going anywhere.

No?

That is not what I am saying at all.

Going with out the electricity needed to supply our heaters ect would kill (hundreds of) thousands of vulnerable old people. why do you think so many of them move to Miami?

but it kind of is becuase if electric went out, food would not stay stored. ud have to hunt or scrounge food. you would have no ac, no heat, no stove. etc. power plants would fail to run factories etc so itd be one big survivalists dream lol

old people is not the average man

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UR MY BOY WITTY

Nah you're right. The average man would survive. Naturally some wouldn't. But thats just the same in our current circumstances WITH everything we need to survive. Are people forgetting the caveman era?

GOW i think he's talking about people ALONE. not like people as a society, even tribe like

but his argument is flawed from the jump because we aren't a lone animal. solitary or whatever

put a gorilla in a forest full of food and water if he aint with other gorillas he's gonna die. a lone wolf etc. theres a reason wolves ho out to the alpha. they can't make it alone

not much can. only shit like bears, tigers are pretty solitary, mountain lions etc.

Send a random family to the African Plains.

Do they survive?

I highly doubt It.

And word @God Of War, It's all love lol

If everyone had the same opinions this place would be boring.

what if its a random family from the africa plains?

and what do you mean by "survive"

do you mean live to die of old age? because without modern medicine thats like 40-50 tops lol

you get old dudes from ancient times, but they lived in civilised society, where they'd go to DA BUTCHER and had aqueducts and shit

a random family from ohio could "survive" in ohio

it all depends on what you mean by survive

I'm talking about a random 1st world family being put in an environment like the African Plains where they have to hunt to live, but also have to protect themselves from being hunted, we don't know how to live like that....we are used to being top of the food chain and not having to watch our backs or worry about where our next meal is coming from.

Put together with the fact they probably would only have a limited knowledge of medicine and food preparation and storage in the wild (No refrigerators, no freezers)...I personally don't see them lasting more than a few months.

Theirs some guy who is 126 spending all of those years in the Paraguayan wilderness.

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