wut

alaska just hopped on btw

it's a revolution yall!

abortion bills are about dealing the consequence of actions in the same way that invading venezuela is about fighting communism

The only people who should really duke this out is a group of women - that’s my issue - we can advise an out our money in. But we inherently are unable to understand the finder details - take a fair group of women an let them decide
Not one of us would let a group of women decide if we can do the hot or Thot tourney

So did flow bitch - know where my vote is going in the 1-2

You wernt showing your cards and getting to a point - I’d happily discuss the point you were attempting to pincer me into to then take out of context (standard debaters move )

I have a very good point

Answer it

were you on DMT or k2 when you figured that all out

You've all failed terribly to destroy the argument against these bills. Actual retards.

Vent the rest of the garbage you all have in your heads and I'll be back in awhile to show you how to properly fight against the pro-life lobby.

makes sense that you would try to connect opinions you don't share with other things you have no experience with

Bitches don't abort real niggaz babies

Right
I look dumb, so I’ve just been “trolling”

Upon review Des won this thread

He would take the W if this was a debate battle

loool what experiences do you have with abortions? or children for that matter?

you're a dirty hipster who holds signs for a living go fuck yourself

I do not look dumb, you do (don't let Blues insistence on tugging your balls in here make you think you don't, he's just mad about the whole 1-2 thing and doesn't have an open battle to write 100 lines for)

Logic will always favor the pro-life side of a debate on abortion if the debate is fueled primarily by emotional response and moral questioning

let me guess mikey

you spent a summer in impoverished areas around cali driving young women that used healing crystals as birth control and needed tandem bike rides to planned parenthood when it didn't work, and OH MAN the stories you've heard?

No it won’t
Because no one can ultimately define when life begins
That’s why this will go in circles forever
But pro-lifers want to value a clump of cells equal to and in reality, more than someone with hopes, dreams, loved ones and I never will see any “logic” in that.

And I’ll take blue votes where I can get them, thank you very much

you're saying literally not having the chance at life is the same as someone having to deal with a birth? OH NO CHOOSING TO LET A LIFE LIVE MEANS MY PLANS TO GO TO PARIS OR NURSING SCHOOL WILL BE ON HOLD FOR A YEAR WHY WONT THEY JUST LET ME KILL THIS THING SO I CAN KEEP DRINKING CHAI LATTES OR MOUNTAIN DEW BECAUSE I WAS RASIED IN A SOCIETY THAT LETS YOU HAVE WHATEVER YOU WAAAAAANNNTTTTT THIS ISNT MY PROBLEM

seriously go eat a bullet outside the buzzfeed offices you massive cunt

You believe your self an astute debater and yet have insulted and diminished the intellect of those you debate with to close most of your arguments - it’s a fair technique however I will call you on it - it’s the car salesmen technique where you attack someone’s self esteem an downgrade them as someone with an opinion then answer the question directly that was given you

I did ask you more then once to define the point you were making without trying to railroad me (as I was smart enough to deduct that was said plan) with your point

Define the point of what? Last thing you said was woman don't have control over mens bodies, I asked why

I need to tell you where I'm going with asking that question before you do?

Learn to play 4D chess or get off the checkerboard pal

i don't understand your question but that's probably because you missed my point

i'm very far from someone who 'holds signs for a living' lol come on bro

i was saying you have a terrible opinion of why abortion bills are passed just like you have a terrible opinion of venezuela which i gathered from you calling maduro a communist in the bernie thread which is also filled with terrible opinions from you

seth do you advocate for any demographic other than unborn fetuses?

tbc i'm saying demographic because you consider them lives

I advocate for life in general

Though I don't pay into the libertarian party anymore since it's been infected I still hold the beliefs that led me to them in 2008, that everyone deserves absolute freedom AS LONG AS IT DOESNT HURT OTHERS

Since I consider, (scientifically not religiously) that fetuses are lives 6 days after conception and once implantation is achieved, I consider abortion to be murder

Are you saying I think we're getting involved with Venezuela because f communist?

If so no

It's for dem oils? fucking duh?

can you elaborate? when you say you "advocate for life in general" what does that mean?

you defend everything's right, to be alive? do you go beyond that ever? and do you advocate for life of non-humans? frozen embryos in fertility clinics? those get discarded quite often, no? do you care if an animal fetus is aborted? why or why not?

and after whichever of those that you choose to advocate for do in fact make it to this life(thanks for the work you do to help get them here), what other rights of theirs do you advocate for? clearly "absolute freedom" doesn't come for everyone in the system we're born into, so when the freedoms they deserve are curbed, do you advocate for them? if so, can you give examples?

lastly, do you believe that the foster system is a good upholder of absolute freedom for the babies that will end up there after their mother is forced to carry to term? if not, why would you support a law that will most definitely send them there? especially when we know the high rates of depression, suicide, mental illness, drug addiction, and criminality from children that have gone through this system?

do you think maduro is a communist?

I’ll settle this over a game
Of chess if your willing

this is loaded so give me a minute, I do not take you as a PancakeBrah style troll so I assume you'd welcome me actually addressing each point seriously

send me an invite needs to be an iphone game tho

Seth desperate.

Yo you know I’m drunk - also you know I get your opinion - but competitive an very good at chess I’ll dischord you Ona. Game tomorrow at work

no he's a socialist

literally part of the socialist party? I'm gonna need to take a page out of flows book and ask where you're trying to go with this

take your time

sounds good

I'm having intelligent conversations with people

You literally spend 2x the amount of time posting on here as me on a regular basis to lie about how cool/macho/not beta you are when no one asked in the first place

Go kick your kids in the ankles some more gotta get that NFL draft 2028

fixed it

so, you misspoke or weren't educated on the topic yet?