Word . I hate that uncle Tom shithe though man

I get furious

Waht u don't know is I have a massive respect for my culture

I guess being biracial it's easy to step out of generalizations n make a determination from an unbiased viewpoint

I love my people

I love whiteys. I love u all truthfully

OK wtf I'm talk boUT bye

A flag can have more than one meaning.

I'm willing to grant the there are historic meanings behind that flag that are significant to people from the south.

But choosing to ignore the FACT that this flag as been co-opted by white supremacist hate groups as a symbol of oppression against so called inferior races is pure idiocy.

And if you can acknowledge that this symbol has been used as a symbol of racism and are aware of the history of racism in this country, in which millions of your fellow human beings suffered and generation after generation struggled to live and die pain filled lives enduring the subjugation of being treated like subhuman creatures....

If you're aware of all that. And you still want to fly that flag. That cool. But what does that say about you?

Gone @Oriental

My night batty don't see too many unnaturallized Asian pplz cept viet shrimp farmers on gulf Coast

He no no no better

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He means well. But I think I understand his stance on this deep south shit

So way about the Washington Redskins

I ain't flying shit. Btw

These are the same people that ignore the fact that the Bible contains instructions on subjugating people, slave trades, bride-prices and indiscriminate massacre, but oh yeah there is that one part about being nice...

IT'S A SYMBOL OF SECESSION MORE THAN SLAVERY RACISM.STUFF


MORE SENSATIONALISM

To ppl who can't relate they see the flag n immediately think racism

We don't down hete. It just induces curiosity

Who's flying it n why

They got balls coz there's too many ignorant wolves out there that'll peg u as a evil sumbitch

If that was real, you'd see more of these pro-Dixie flag people denounce the association with skin heads, Nazi's, and the KKK. They're quick to protest being asked to take the flag down, but they're not asking any of the bigots to stop associating themselves with it.

Did you ever wonder why that is?


Edit: I'm from Kentucky, I have definitely seen both sides of this issue. I'm just asking you to use your critical thinking skills.

Tied to add this to my last post

Slavery was just a part of the economy. A terrible practice that would have died eventually if the south had won

And so often the flag is displayed coupled with the phrase 'the south will rise again.'
what part of the south is that referring to Batty, sweet tea everywhere?

COz Noone gives a duck about the kkk or skinheads

Too much American history x

They protest the flag be in taken down but also dislike the ones using it to propel hate. Those groups need not be mentiined. They are irrelevant. Why would u try to convince a hate group to stop flying they standard. Let me hate. Who cares. Luckily the issue is being modernized.

First of all....it is my job to know you better than you know yourself. This stepdad issue has caused a bitterness. It makes sense. I wish you would just man up and own it. Safe place remember.

As for stats I posted them. YOU POSTED STATS OF ALL DEATHS FROM RELIGION REMEMBER LOLZORD!

THEY WEREN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE ABORTION DEATHS ALONE.

CMON JUDE.

abortions aren't deaths so...

Lmao. Where

I see this rarely n I live in Mississippi

Have half of my dam in ms

But even that phrase is up for discussion

Those are just the ignorant being ignorant

Oh u think they really think a re-enslavement is possible?

No. It's a desire to become relevant again tbh. But I rarely see that phrase

Muff you have no idea what you're talking about.

Slavery WAS the Southern economy. Slaves were property, they held value and were traded like assets. The South was entirely agriculture dependent and they were able to move so far beyond the subsistence farming more typical of the time because of the steady supply of free labor. This allowed them to expand to cash crops and rake in sizeable profits without worrying about labor costs as businesses expanded. This created a large competitive advantage that coupled with the ideal farming climates of the South and later technological advances of the Industrial Revolution made it difficult for other parts of the world to compete.

The slave economy of the South literally built, fed, and paid for much of America.

But yeah, you're right, they we're just gonna give all that up eventually.

Bruh, fr fr I work with a bunch of Asian ppls, real talk. One of the security guards at work lookin straight like Jet Li.

But yo, @Destroyer ...seriously. I don't have a problem with them taking that flag down at every government institution, I promise it don't bother me. It's the fact that it's become such a conspiracy type thing and trying to force shame on ppl. Fuck it, I'm all for being respectful and not wanting to offend ppl but this shit is straight stupid to call anybody with a flag to be racist.

Same with the Nazi flag, white supremacy groups started using that shit too but there are some legit ppl out there who just want to preserve the flags for historical reasons or just be coz they are war buffs in general.

This shit is getting into censorship territory and repression, that shit ain't American.

As for the religion thing, me and V disagree on a lot of it all, but yo, alphas can do that. We have had discussions and flat out arguments. We got respect for each other for being real. We been through our wigger phases and grew up and developed our own styles. Trust, some of these white dudes trying to dress like Rob Dyrdek well into their 30s just ain't where's at.

Real respects real, but I also respect trolls.

@fraze

Dude there were alot of confederates who said and I can quote

That slavery was a practice that would self implode because of Morality/pressure

Do ur history. Jefferson Davis was among them

No shit. Your long as post is common knowledge

It made money...it sustained them. Dude that shit is toxic as fuck. Trust if Slavery persisted u would have seem the first successful invasion of us soil


BET THAT

I hate when ppl post large eloquent paragraphs that ate 3rd grade facts

Dude even the higher ups knew slavery could not persist forever

fuxkin Muffert E Lee in here

Where else in the world do you have a situation where you can run a business, and instead of labor costs, you just have a one time fixed cost that gets you an appreciating asset over the next 50 years, free labor, and allows you to farm the most profitable crops in the world (heard of tobacco and cotton) with no additional work on your part?

If you answered slavery, you are correct.

Ok. Even sans the abortions world war one and two and Korea and naziism and communism far eclipse yiur stats.

Let's talk about your bitterness thougj bro. Ok?

U obv didn't read wat I just said

Slavery economic boom but also the bane of its existence had it persisted for too long

Specially AFTER the civil war

Think butterfly effect

Shot would have changed worldwide

yeah let's talk about how I'm SO bitter, I've made three threads in the last two days about how much I hate god...

The bible never condoned slavery in modern terms. It was indentured servitude and could only be for 7 years guys.

Sweet tea everywhere, yes most definitely. South will rise again? Hell to the fuck naw. If somebody had that shit on something around here, we'd be like "wtf that supposed to mean??"

That's old dramatized type shit from 70's movies or somethin, trust. Muff and V will co-sign, people ain't running around with some racist shit displayed. Real talk, a dude I used to work with was into civil war reenactments, he was really nice and everything and he tried to explain his love for the flag and how he meant nothing racist or disrespectful by it. One day he asked me if I'd sign a petition to help him get it flown. He was nice and I did not doubt his intentions but I declined, I told him I respect his love for it but it's not something that I care enough to support.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

He talm bout his hoes des

Lol jk but kinda srs

U can buy a male hoe n a woman hoe

Lmao jk yall back on jebus so I gtg I dunno shot about jebus

Word, I even posted that shit myself earlier in this thread but these dudes ain't trying to hear it. Plans to get out of slavery had already been set in motion and black Confederate Soldiers were actually getting equal pay.

Plus also noted, the north had slaves and they paid their black soldiers less than their white.

Also posted how republicans used to for black people and Democrats were against black people.

Wonder where some of these armchair historians think the KKK came from???

Guesses? Anyone?

Wanna touch on the gay issue yet?

Lars peen to Zelph's butt to thread?

"Cot dammit who cut these holes. I can't see shiiiit!"

Hitler openly stated a few times that he was doing it for God, he was absolutely religious and driven by said religion. Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

Can I make it any clearer?

Actually there was an equal swap over of the ideals of both democrats and republicans, can't remember the time period, the people who supported slavery were republicans as defined today.

Hitler was a crazy as meth head

Not relevant

N u could pay for absolution back in the times where u got that quote referring to catholicism

More crazy

Let's leave lunacy out Mr fox

Muff, you're a black dude in here advocating for the confederate flag and the south, and basically saying slavery was almost over before the civil war, and you want to leave lunacy out of the conversation?

I'm not sure that's possible homie

That's all u took from it?

You clearly are just posting bs now

I'm advocating for the ppl who I know aren't bigots n don't want to see the flag removed because TO THEM it's a symbol of resilience n bravery

There are a few ppl who champion it for other reasons


Me. I personally don't give a duck

But don't u dare say all ppl who display the flag are bigots

You are ignorant if that's the case. N incapable of seeing the big picture

Thats correct. After the Civil Rights legislature passed in the 1960s (advocated by Democrats) southern Democrats aka Dixiecrats aka think Strom Thurmond left the Democratic party and flipped to the Republican side. This is when the social realignment of occurred and the Republican party started moving towards more anti-minority policies.

uh oh guys, don't go posting facts now
this is a thread about magical sky fairies

Think Washington redskins

I wonder how many ppl are like "ducking red skin indian SAVAGES"

Instead of championing the "warrior spirit."

Analogy.

Terrible n insensitive(n a Lil bit off) but I'm Tryon to help u see where I'm coming from

I'm just trying to keep it simple enough for people to follow along. If I get too deep people just start glazing over. Yes, people knew slavery couldn't last forever. Yes they knew it was wrong. But they still wanted to make it go on for as long as they could.

Its the same thing we're seeing with global warming right now. Our effect on the climate is going to result in the deaths of millions of people who live in coastal areas (something that is already starting). But the deniers would rather obfuscate truth and try to keep the oil money rolling in for as long as possible.

Because they can, and because it's profitable.

Like I said I'm pretty sure from my own expierences that white ppl who fly the flag have immense pride for their forefathers bravery to revolt against an incursion to their normalcy

Not "HEY NIGGERS. WE GONNA SHACKLE U AGAIN ONE DAY"

Lol n if they do. I implore them to try

Like the world would stand idly by

Mmk I have a feeling this is a lesser stance from way u said earlier but I can dig it. Mostly correct

This is sad dude
You're trying really, really hard to put a spin on things

If you want, you can tell me what Obama did, you can tell me what he inherited before he came in office, and I'll give you my evaluation of the facts?



Okay well the Swastika was my town soccer team's symbol so anyone saying its offensive is just ignorant

Can't they see its just part of my towns heritage????


That doesn't mean it's discrimination


The way that racism affects majorities is completely and totally inconsequential

For your six stories about some white dude not getting hired because of some random black dude in HR, I could find hundreds of thousands of stories about discrimination against black people, because statistically, they are discriminated against and do worse in EVERY metric except maybe professional sports



No it's not


It's more of a debate and you're really fixating hard on this facts/ opinions thing

You straight up backed down from that "an entire company of black people only let whites work for corn meal in the laundry room" fact huh?

If you want we can make it a "fact fight" lmao but I don't want to spend an afternoon on my laptop posting an entire thread building a case that no one will want to read


I think you should really take an Ethics class and stay tuned for the segment on racism and discrimination