Pretty sure Cod uses a different engine than Battlefield, the movement doesn't even feel the same, kinda feel CoD got smoother movement actually.. but it's beside the point and you did say they were identical at best (paraphrasing) earlier so fuck that.

Once you get into the gameplay of both CoD and Battlefield it's completely different games man. Just because both games got team deathmatch doesn't mean it's the same fucking shit, hell, soccer and handball got two goals, different teams and a ball, shieeet, might as well call it the same fucking sport because just adding/changing/removing some minor stuff isn't enough! The way you speak it's like it's the same fucking shit b.

As it goes for your first post as well; you don't see people compare WoW to DotA 2, do you? I get your point, GTA V is going to be awesome and it's going to shit on Ghosts in terms of sales and we're all going to have nasty grins on our faces and laugh cuz IW and Treyarch took a huge dump on the FPS genre to show how well shit can sell, but someone that wants to buy a FPS Multiplayer game aint going to pick up GTA V. And someone that wants a more realistic and strategic approach to an FPS game and doesn't snort lighter gas on a daily basis isn't going to pick up Ghosts, it'll be Battlefield 4 and vice versa. It doesn't make any sense to say x is better than x when they're placed in two different genres.

I've played FPS on and off in clans since Soldier of Fortune 2 and the dawn of CS 1.6, even played Wolfenstein online for a little while. I'm a certified white fucking nerd whose definitely considered a no-lifer in some (if not most) circles, so believe me when I say the differences between Battlefield and CoD is huge as fuck once you get into it. And you, as a game developer yourself, should have enough insight to realize that fact and not base your entire knowledge on engines, you know it's the gameplay that counts. It's not the same fucking shit.

If your idea of the blueprint/concept is about killing the other team and that's all it takes for it to be the same game we're on the same page. But I don't agree with that. Same as I don't agree with Nascar the game 2013 isn't Gran Turismo 5 just because there's cars in it, graphics are decent in both games and you can race against your friends. And Chrono Trigger aint fucking Final Fantasy III or Pokemon Red. We've already established that shit; MPFPS IS MPFPS AND RPG IS RPG nah'mean? I agree with BF and CoD being MPFPS, but I don't fucking agree with BF and CoD being similar at all.

So yeah, that's it. I've said mine. If you disagree I guess we just have different opinions about this ish. Thanks for the debate tho'. :)

they sue different engines but the engines are identical. there the same game as i said. your example was fucking stupid because nascar and gran turismo is two different types of games and engines....there engines is nothing alike yet cod and battlefield is. your a battlefield fan boy, same way ima gta fan boy. so ur in here defended it cuz u dont want it to be like cod but it has a good bit of similiarities esp up until three they based there engines off of alot of other fps out there which is why they was never that big. they only just recently starting doing something major which is why there taking off and getting bigger then cod even one of the devs said it...... theres still similiarities man until they get a more indepth story they wont ever be top of the line, there tactical shit will always be beat by shit like mgs and there kill shit will alwyas be beat by shit like cod esp on sales. they need to break apart fromt he norm

people already playing part 4 has mixed reviews dude

what gow is trying to say is that Nas is goat and Christian bale was the best batman ever.
right gow?
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong

lmao THATS IT

Almost nothing has changed in COD since 4 except maps, weapons, and skins. It's like they literally just take DLC maps and re skin everything and slap the next number on it. Battlefield at least changes a shit load more than that and varies in multiplayer AND single player modes. The online FPS is basically all the fucking same now. Can you say the same about GTA? No. They start from scratch for almost every game. New engine and are constantly evolving the open world/sandbox genre, in which they fucking INVENTED. Lol..

thats what i been trying to say lol


thats why battlefield is starting to get alot more recognition cuz there starting to change shit up


the online esp has the same blueprint and bases if u play one u played em all

gta 4 life

Dude, I'm prestige 15 in BO2 and I've played enough BF3 to be fan of both games. I hate the term fanboy as well, wtf's the point? If you enjoy the game you enjoy the game, done deal. But they're still too different to be called the same. The shit you said about Nascar and Gran Turismo is the same shit someone who knows FPS would say about CoD and Battlefield, it's too different to call it the same thing allthough there's some similarities in terms of gameplay.

Wait... You talk about MGS, wtf? I'm talking about the multiplayer aspect of this shit, not the storymode. I thought I made that clear earlier. 90% of people, if not more, don't buy Battlefield and CoD for the fucking storymode. People wouldn't buy MGS and expect dope multiplayer shit. If storymode is what you're talking about I agree with you, cuz MGS shits on both of those games combined when it comes to that. I also agree that they need to break apart from the norm if they want to stay alive cuz even casual players get bored of the same shit eventually and that's what their main target is.

GTA is its own fucking thing, you can't compare it with FPS games, it aint even FPS, like wtf man. Either way I agree with you on 1 thing; GTA is going to be fucking awesome and I think GTA V is going to be game of the year. When it comes down to it I think we're both just as much fanboys (cringe at that word) of GTA.

all I ever speak on is single player/story mode......the multiplayer has alot of similiarities though escp death match n shit.....gta made multiplayer different unlike any other game.t hats what games like battlefield need to do . not copy them but seperate themselves from the norm

what are they playing ? the Alpha or Closed Beta? i never put much stock in the Alpha but a closed beta is close to finished product

and nascar and turismo being different isnt the same as what ur saying, because ther engines is completely different.....

supposadly the same beta there opening up for alot of people in early fall

No wonder we haven't agreed on anything in this thread, lmfao, I was talking about multiplayer while you were talking about single player.. But yo, for you to bring up deathmatch as one of the similarities which is the most common gamemode in all MPFPS games ever made tells me you don't know that much about the online part when it comes down to it. Yo, people don't buy Battlefield for the storymode. Only a few people does that shit and they're a minority, the majority buys it mainly for the online part, same thing goes for CoD. Why do you think they're only like 6-8 hours long? lol.

As far as it goes for my Nascar/GT5 similie; get my fucking point instead of going into technicalities ffs.

but im all abotu technicality rofl

why would i pay 60 dolalrs for a game that does the exact same thing when i can pay 60 dollars for a game that you can play for 200 hours and none of it be repetitive thats my thing

sure killing is fun in games but in the end it will never beat that 200 hour game which is what it hink we was ona bout int he begining

Jesus fucking christ, MY POINT BEING; THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COD AND BATTLEFIELD, ESPECIALLY ONLINE. NOTHING MORE. THAT'S IT. FUCK THE REST. THEY MIGHT SEEM THE SAME BUT THEY AINT. THAT'S ALL.

Also: I'm not really mad and capslock isn't cruise control for cool. Sorry about that.

but but they have similarities they have some different features sure but they have similiar ones to and end the end there just war games

FUCK YOU, your reasoning could have been my moms. After saying something like that your opinions have absolutely no relevance what-so-fucking-ever to me ever again with anything that has to do with gaming (not developing games tho', you've already established your dominance there, lol).

On the real tho': Can't tell if you're trolling or if you actually mean this shit. If you're trolling; Good on you. If you're not: Fine, we're not on the same page and we probably never will either.

lmao my point is this, fps is still young as far as commercialism goes. they are still way to similiar imo...they need to seperate themselves alot more. games like battlefield i respect more because it is starting to seperate itself but it still has a bit to go imo and it needs to. it needs to completely seperate itself from games like cod and alot of people dont see it as that because just 4 or 5 years ago it wasnt. i dont kow im high but i beleive what i beleive rofl

BF = Tactical objective based gameplay with various game modes to support that, no one plays death match. it has destructible environments, ok you wanna camp behind a wall or fence or whatever, i will shoot through it, or blow it up and kill you. the most important stat is SPM, score per minute. so you dont sit around your out doing things. we have vehicles, tanks, jets , choppers, quads, boats. you could be a medic and straight give med kits and revive people all round, you could be an engineer and repair vehicles all round. i once had the highest score of the round without killing a single person. and the guns have serious recoil that you have to adjust your aim for. you could lay down mines. its limitless

COD - arcade style shooter, sit and camp behind indestructible crate, guns have no recoil and are easy to aim. no vehicles , no sense behind the classes. and death match all day biggest stat is KDR

the two are not comparable

as i said same game one is just dressed up more, engines are almost identical etc etc so yeah keep trying brosephs

you know how much has to go into an engine to create a fully destructible environment?

every thing on the map can be destroyed , that is a huge difference. only Frostbite engine has that in gaming its unheard of