I don't have the stats in front of me but I'd be surprised if he's 'elite' in terms of yardage or TD-INT ration. Could be wrong, though.

LOL EDDIE IT IS FUNNY

Because if you had Cam on your team you'd be on his dick just like you are with Ben. You're just a delusional fan. Karp has some sense. But you're just lame with the homerism.

Cam > Ben.

It's cool, though.

Ipick the ravens every week.

cake trolling w/ the cam>ben


has to be

or do you mean from a fantasy football standpoint?

...you don't think Cam is a better QB? lol

I mean fantasy wise, of course


overall, HELLLL no

...

Cam is not better than Ben.

I agree that Eddie is delusional as fuck.

But cam is not better than Ben.

Stop.

k

Sure Ben has better career stats I guess

I mean real life.

Karp, just think if you had Cam as the Steelers QB. You wouldn't stop talking shit. If he was the Bears QB I'd be the same way. He got put in a horrible situation for winning at Carolina. In terms of talent (arm strength, athleticism) he has Top 5 potential.

Ryan Leaf had potential too.

I don't like Cam's attitude and that shit goes a long way, sure he has talent and broke a few records, but I need to see a few more seasons before I compare him to Ben


I'd take Ben even if I was Ravens fan lol

This is a non-sequitur and not related to the argument. Leaf was a bust. When I say potential I'm basing it off of shit Cam has done IN the league.

Ok fine.

What are you basing his potential off of though? Lol.

The fact he's won games? He hasn't.

The fact he's put up big numbers? Stats are misleading.

The fact he's a great leader? Lol.

The fact he's super clutch? Not really.

He's got a solid pout to win ratio though.

I agree Cam has attitude issues, and that's a real thing. But if he was in an organization like the Steelers do you think those would pop up? I don't think they would. He's a front runner.

The fact he's the most athletically gifted running QB since Vick. And the fact he has a howitzer for an arm and has proven he can utilize it against NFL defenses. I'm a stathead, but if you discount stats you're a fool bro. He's immature, yes. But he has a dogshit team around him on offense. From the top of the organization on down the Panthers are a joke.

I'm a stat head as well but you have to take it with a grain of salt

Your basing it off talent is what you're saying though.

Everyone has flashes.

Jamarcus Fucking Russell had fucking flashes man.

I don't believe in Cam.

Ben has proven to me he can win games in any situation.

If you think Cam's career up to this point has just been a few flashes, then idk what to tell you bro.

I can say the same thing about you thinking Cam > Ben.

Literally is funny imo.