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Exis 01-07-2019 07:24 AM

I agree fam, read shit wrong...my bad.

Diode 01-07-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Qualm (Post 721145)
ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: Diode

Do you believe in God: Undecided

Religion: Raised episcopal, presently agnostic

Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: That highly depends on your qualification of "life"

Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes

Should gays be allowed to marry: Yes

Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: Yes

Should prostitution be legalized: Yes (and regulated)

Are women equal to men: This is too broad of a question (no pun intended)

Are you

creationist: no
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: yes
anti-immigration: no (though this is also entirely too broad)
pro-guns: with heavy regulation

fun!

Plot 01-07-2019 09:13 AM

In Australia we have legalized brothels, but its illegal to solicit on the street.
I think it's all illegal in the states. @Exis

Diode 01-07-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721459)
In Australia we have legalized brothels, but its illegal to solicit on the street.
I think it's all illegal in the states. @Exis

there are a scant few exceptions. but yes.

~RustyGunZ~ 01-07-2019 09:27 AM

Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

Diode 01-07-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721461)
Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

there was no defined scope, so assumption was "if in any case you support it, then say yes"

~RustyGunZ~ 01-07-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 721463)
there was no defined scope, so assumption was "if in any case you support it, then say yes"

I think he was trying to separate the abortion part with the two questions

The death penalty I feel you can’t half support

In a world with machine learning video enhancements and dna being easily placed anywhere, I just don’t see how someone can support the state choosing when someone can be killed like cattle while the state pays for their housing for 3-10 years

Diode 01-07-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721464)
I think he was trying to separate the abortion part with the two questions

The death penalty I feel you can’t half support

In a world with machine learning video enhancements and dna being easily placed anywhere, I just don’t see how someone can support the state choosing when someone can be killed like cattle while the state pays for their housing for 3-10 years

methinks your understanding of how far technology has gotten is a bit misplaced.

~RustyGunZ~ 01-07-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 721466)
methinks your understanding of how far technology has gotten is a bit misplaced.

Meknows it’s not

I’m 3 months from being a post grad comp sci student stop gaslighting my tech knowledge on netcees you tit

Take away the deep fakes aspect that you’re in denial of though and just in general. You’re supporting a slow process to eventually taking a life that might be innocent and if they are guilty, putting someone out of their misery. Just seems like a bad idea from all angles. I’m sure it’s emotionally motivated for most people, cus no one wants murderers and rapist around. Just sad people are more about their own protection and safety than that of others to such an extent they support mass genocide and hangings yet think we live in a new civil world that others are denying as worth the progress.

Diode 01-07-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721469)
Meknows it’s not

I’m 3 months from being a post grad comp sci student stop gaslighting my tech knowledge on netcees you tit

Take away the deep fakes aspect that you’re in denial of though and just in general. You’re supporting a slow process to eventually taking a life that might be innocent and if they are guilty, putting someone out of their misery. Just seems like a bad idea from all angles. I’m sure it’s emotionally motivated for most people, cus no one wants murderers and rapist around. Just sad people are more about their own protection and safety than that of others to such an extent they support mass genocide and hangings yet think we live in a new civil world that others are denying as worth the progress.

I'm not gaslighting a goddamned thing - deepfakes aren't even remotely close to the level where the average podunk police department is out there providing false evidence via doctored video. You know how machine learning works Mr. Post-Grad. It needs data to work. High quality data. Which also says nothing of audio, which is even further behind/implausible for the average criminal. Nor can they "plant dna evidence" that would survive a trial and rounds of appeals. Fact. Fact, fact, fact.

So yes, dear Knucklehead, if a perpetrator is 100% undoubtedly caught on camera or in person or hell, pleads guilty with no question about whatever act worthy of death they committed, I am for execution.

~RustyGunZ~ 01-07-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 721471)
I'm not gaslighting a goddamned thing - deepfakes aren't even remotely close to the level where the average podunk police department is out there providing false evidence via doctored video. You know how machine learning works Mr. Post-Grad. It needs data to work. High quality data. Which also says nothing of audio, which is even further behind/implausible for the average criminal. Nor can they "plant dna evidence" that would survive a trial and rounds of appeals. Fact. Fact, fact, fact.

So yes, dear Knucklehead, if a perpetrator is 100% undoubtedly caught on camera or in person or hell, pleads guilty with no question about whatever act worthy of death they committed, I am for execution.

Ugh

These are the post I used to fight you on, but I like getting along with you. I know you don’t mean to be overly egotistical it’s just your daily mindset to sell sell sell

That’s not how most states (if any?) handle the death penalty though. General convictions with evidence that can and has been wrong go into it too. It’s also a lot of money invested. I’d rather have them in gen pop and more likely to have a worse time and maybe even get got on the prisoners dime.

Qualm 01-07-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721461)
Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

out of curiosity, what's your position on animal life/meat. Not gonna start a debate from this, just wondering.

Diode 01-07-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721472)
Ugh

These are the post I used to fight you on, but I like getting along with you. I know you don’t mean to be overly egotistical it’s just your daily mindset to sell sell sell

That’s not how most states (if any?) handle the death penalty though. General convictions with evidence that can and has been wrong go into it too. It’s also a lot of money invested. I’d rather have them in gen pop and more likely to have a worse time and maybe even get got on the prisoners dime.

That wasn't the question re: death penalty though. It was just the concept. Since there are circumstances in which I am in favor, I couldn't in good conscience mark "no"

uh-oh 01-07-2019 12:09 PM

Yea i said yes to the death penalty under the presumption of how it should work. Like you fucked a kid? Hang them. Now. You dont get to sit in death row etc etc.

But im not for prison at all, it needs completely reformed. If you commit a crime you should go to basically a halfway house with job skill training etc. So you got a curfew etc like probation/house arrest but you arent locked in a cell doing nothing

And if the crime you committed is too heinous for that situation to make sense, hang them. Ropes are cheap and reusable, spend half the prison money on job training bing bang boom

~RustyGunZ~ 01-07-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Qualm (Post 721479)
out of curiosity, what's your position on animal life/meat. Not gonna start a debate from this, just wondering.

I’ve been actively eating less meat, and what I do eat is free range and grass fed that’s raised by family members

Plot 01-07-2019 12:17 PM

Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

DMS 01-07-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721493)
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

So is the planet valuable intrinsically but human life isn’t? Or is existence in over-abundance taking away are personhood without us being responsible? Aren’t more people dying in America than are being born? This raises allot of questions.

~RustyGunZ~ 01-07-2019 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721493)
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

I mean you’re an unemployed alcoholic faggot so makes sense you don’t care about life if your own isn’t valuable to you

Diode 01-07-2019 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721493)
Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

whoa whoa whoa hang on voltaire

we got an edgelord over here

Exis 01-07-2019 04:25 PM

@Plot I've lived in Australia for almost 18 years, I know there are legalized brothels here & altho I'm American I can't comment on what's happenin' in the States as I honestly don't know how things work in that regard as I haven't been back in almost two decades bro...

& I'm all for the death penalty when it's comes to rape, child molestation, terror related crimes etc. hence why I said yes to that question.


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