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veritas 05-10-2014 11:14 AM

Wrong. I have merely pointed out your cobtradictions.


If we did not evolve from monkeys what was our common ancestor and where did that come from?

millz 05-10-2014 11:17 AM

Again you continue to dodge questions.

veritas 05-10-2014 11:26 AM

wrong. you stated that I had blind faith. You stated that there was a bunch of science to disprove the Bible yet produced none.

plus, I know what I believe, but I am now certain that you do not know what you believe or at least why you believe it, as you parrot to me other's ideas, and not the discovery of truth a man should attain to.....so you are a sheep of an agenda.

prove me wrong sheep and answer 2 questions:

1. what is our common ancestor if it is not a monkey>?
2. where did our common ancestor come from?

millz 05-10-2014 11:43 AM

Again. Not answering questions.




Prove to me the logistics behind the story of Noah's ark. Explain that.


Explain to me logically how the universe was created

Explain to me logically how human life began




The difference between science and the bible and people like you is this.


Science doesn't pretend it has all the answers. It's ever changing. It does real world tests to prove and search for answers.

It has a specific method for testing things and science is not afraid of the unknown. They are constantly growing a better understanding for all answers. Including where did life come from.


Where as people like you think in this method.

Why did it rain today? Your first solution is a simple one. GOD made it rain.
Why is the sky blue? Because god made it that way.

How was the universe created? I don't know god must of done it.

Science is based upon intelligence, understanding, and a thirst for knowledge and your philosophy is based upon fear of the unknown, stupidity and lack of complex analysis.

uh-oh 05-10-2014 11:55 AM

veritas our common ancestor was an ape

what is your point

millz stop this nonsense. you cannot engage him like this. i made this thread to politely engage in religious discussions with him in an effort to coax out why he thinks what he thinks. but you RUINED IT bro. i don't blame you. you are unfamiliar with the anomaly that is veritas. but word. thread failed

Witty 05-10-2014 12:06 PM

@Veritas we did not evolve from monkeys nor do we share a common ancestor with them...we are great apes and share a common ancestor with other great apes...chimps, bonobos, Oranguatans.

millz 05-10-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 333227)
veritas our common ancestor was an ape

what is your point

millz stop this nonsense. you cannot engage him like this. i made this thread to politely engage in religious discussions with him in an effort to coax out why he thinks what he thinks. but you RUINED IT bro. i don't blame you. you are unfamiliar with the anomaly that is veritas. but word. thread failed



Well I apologize.

uh-oh 05-10-2014 12:21 PM

its ok. my method was failing anyways as he was ignoring my questions and redirecting them and talking to namix instead. i have given up hope in showing veritas to the light.

millz 05-10-2014 12:29 PM

Let's talk about the church of football.


I'm stoked about the Cowboys first 2 picks. They will both be monsters. People are pissed we didn't go dline in round 1. What they fail to realize is we've added a ton of dline to the roster that didn't play last year. Anthony spencer and Tyrone Crawford are both solid and Crawford potential is huge. They were hurt last year. Added henry Melton who is a perfect 3tech. Added mincey who will be a solid role player and drafted demarcus lawrence who had 34 sacks in 32 college games.

So we got 5 new dline from last season. Lol


I like your first 2 picks though. Mosley is nice and Jernigan will be a monster.

veritas 05-10-2014 12:45 PM

you are all unwise, and sheep.

in fact, you all even DISAGREE ON WHO/WHAT OUR COMMON ANCESTOR WAS.


ROFFFFLZLZLZLZLL

AND UH-OH: I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS, YOU JUST DIDNT LIKE THE ANSWERS.

veritas 05-10-2014 12:46 PM

uhoh:

if you wanted to "coax" out why I think the way I do...why did you just not ask?

smh.

Witty 05-10-2014 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333263)
you are all unwise, and sheep.

in fact, you all even DISAGREE ON WHO/WHAT OUR COMMON ANCESTOR WAS.


ROFFFFLZLZLZLZLL

AND UH-OH: I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS, YOU JUST DIDNT LIKE THE ANSWERS.

There is no disagreement...we share a common ancestor with the great apes...there is no other theory that suggests we come from monkeys at all.

As for the sheep comment...pls Veritas...you are following scripture...you are GOD'S SHEEP...IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE BRO.

Use da sheep...following nothing based on nothing that will lead to nothing.

veritas 05-10-2014 12:52 PM

witty: dead.

evolution states that nothing working upon by nothing made everything.

now....simple question: where did the great apes come from?

Witty 05-10-2014 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333268)
witty: dead.

evolution states that nothing working upon by nothing made everything.

now....simple question: where did the great apes come from?

Ummm you need a better understanding of evolution, because it does not state that at all tbh. It is a gradual series of processes.

The great apes came from their ancestors which have long since gone extinct.

We have many fossils showing ancestors of all great apes, including humans, we just haven't found the common ancestor though we have found many links on that chain, including Ardipithecus kadabba, Orrorin tugenensis, Sahelanthropus tchadensis...Science is a process of finding evidence and figuring out the facts from that evidence...it does not claim to know everything, as your book does, but instead finds evidence in the natural world and comes to conclusions based on that evidence...there is no shame on a scientist to say they don't know, because it really only means they don't know yet...we have been studying for a couple hundred years a process that has been happening for millions upon millions of years, only one as arrogant as the faithful believer in God demands to know everything right now. If you are disbelieving all the evidence there is for evolution based on one piece of evidence that hasn't been found then shame on you for your foolishness, that is like saying aliens don't exist because it's 2014 and we still haven't seen any...if this is what you base your belief on then your 'proof' for God is gonna get less and less over the years as we discover more and more.

The God of the gaps is my favourite God...it is so silly.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:10 PM

Ardipithecus kadabba, Orrorin tugenensis, Sahelanthropus tchadensis...

where did they come from?

veritas 05-10-2014 01:15 PM

LOLOLOLZZZZ I HAVE A BETTER GRASP OF EVOLUTIOM THEN THE EVOLUTIONISTS!!!!

Witty 05-10-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333276)
Ardipithecus kadabba, Orrorin tugenensis, Sahelanthropus tchadensis...

where did they come from?

They came from their ancestors.

This really isn't a difficult thing Veritas...it's the same answer every time.

Ask me where their ancestors came from.

Witty 05-10-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333277)
LOLOLOLZZZZ I HAVE A BETTER GRASP OF EVOLUTIOM THEN THE EVOLUTIONISTS!!!!

I doubt it with the 'evolution says nothing came from nothing and made something' comment.

And also the fact that you thought evolution says we descended from monkeys...my little brother knows that isn't what evolution says.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333279)
They came from their ancestors.

This really isn't a difficult thing Veritas...it's the same answer every time.

Ask me where their ancestors came from.

where did their ancestors come from?

veritas 05-10-2014 01:22 PM

ITT: EVOLUTIONISTS ONLY PROVE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

WAIT FOR IT.

Witty 05-10-2014 01:23 PM

Btw I am no 'evolutionist' I just went to school and like to know facts rather than fairy tales created for cave children thousands of years ago.

Show me evidence that proves evolution is wrong, and I will not believe it..it's that simple.

Make me believe in your God Veritas...prove to me he exists with actual evidence from the natural world (as science has the courtesy to do) and I will believe it. Show me a book written by man thousands of years before modern physics was even thought of, before there was even such thing as science, and try to tell me that details how the universe and everything in it works and why..and I will laugh at you.

Witty 05-10-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333282)
where did their ancestors come from?

Their ancestors.

Do you know how sex works Veritas?

Reproduction?

Genetic mutations?

Witty 05-10-2014 01:25 PM

He's doing the LOLOLOLOL YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB thing because he doesn't actually have a counter argument and no basis for his entire belief system...so he resorts to childishness.

You disappoint me Veritas...this is too easy.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333281)
I doubt it with the 'evolution says nothing came from nothing and made something' comment.

And also the fact that you thought evolution says we descended from monkeys...my little brother knows that isn't what evolution says.

PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MONKEYS AND GREAT APES. DID THE GREAT APES COME FROM LESS GREAT APES? MEDIOCRE APES? WHERE DID TEH GRAPE APE COME FROM?


AROJA;LAKJEK;LJA;IOBJIO;EJAGKLJ

millz 05-10-2014 01:26 PM

My only hope is that someday people like veritas will all eventually just die off.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333285)
Their ancestors.

Do you know how sex works Veritas?

Reproduction?

Genetic mutations?


MUTUATION ONLY BRINGS ABOUT DEFECTS AND ABNORMALITIES....LIKE PRESENT DAY INCEST.

WHERE DID THEIR ANCESTORS COME FROM?

Witty 05-10-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333288)
PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MONKEYS AND GREAT APES. DID THE GREAT APES COME FROM LESS GREAT APES? MEDIOCRE APES? WHERE DID TEH GRAPE APE COME FROM?


AROJA;LAKJEK;LJA;IOBJIO;EJAGKLJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333287)
He's doing the LOLOLOLOL YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB thing because he doesn't actually have a counter argument and no basis for his entire belief system...so he resorts to childishness.

You disappoint me Veritas...this is too easy.


veritas 05-10-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millz (Post 333289)
My only hope is that someday people like veritas will all eventually just die off.

PEOPLE WHO YOU CANNOT SILENCE. WHO CAN USE THEIR MINDS TO DISCERN THAT YOU KNOW NOT THAT OF WHICH YOU SPEAK?

WE ARE ALL EVOLVING RIGHT? IT SURE LOOKS LIKE IDIOCRACY TO ME?

millz 05-10-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333290)
MUTUATION ONLY BRINGS ABOUT DEFECTS AND ABNORMALITIES....LIKE PRESENT DAY INCEST.

WHERE DID THEIR ANCESTORS COME FROM?




Present day incest is different than Adam and Eve incest right?

Witty 05-10-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333290)
MUTUATION ONLY BRINGS ABOUT DEFECTS AND ABNORMALITIES....LIKE PRESENT DAY INCEST.

WHERE DID THEIR ANCESTORS COME FROM?

And what exactly do you think caused evolution? Mutations...defects, abnormalities...the beneficial mutations survived, the non-beneficial mutations went down an evolutionary cul-de-sac and died out.

This is pretty basic stuff V, I grow tired...you need to show a better comprehension of evolution (plus your own religion) before I waste my time with you.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333287)
He's doing the LOLOLOLOL YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB thing because he doesn't actually have a counter argument and no basis for his entire belief system...so he resorts to childishness.

You disappoint me Veritas...this is too easy.

WITTY SAYS I HAVE NO BASIS FOR MY BELIEF SYSTEM. BUT I DO. AND I KNOW IT.

WITTY BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION, BUT CONTRADICTS OTHER EVOLTIONISTS IN SAME THREAD.

WITTY: WHERE DID THE FIRST GREAT APE ANCESTOR COME FROM?

NOT CHILDNESS...SERIOUS. A SIMPLE QUESTION. CHILDNESS IS SAYING "THIS IS TOO EASY" WHILE LOSING.

Split 05-10-2014 01:30 PM

ITT Veritas cannot comprehend the idea that some are better suited for survival than others and its because of their genetics

Split 05-10-2014 01:30 PM

Childness

Witty 05-10-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333295)
WITTY SAYS I HAVE NO BASIS FOR MY BELIEF SYSTEM. BUT I DO. AND I KNOW IT.

WITTY BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION, BUT CONTRADICTS OTHER EVOLTIONISTS IN SAME THREAD.

WITTY: WHERE DID THE FIRST GREAT APE ANCESTOR COME FROM?

NOT CHILDNESS...SERIOUS. A SIMPLE QUESTION. CHILDNESS IS SAYING "THIS IS TOO EASY" WHILE LOSING.

I don't know where the first ancestor came from.

I didn't contradict anyone..if someone in here was implying we evolved from monkeys they are wrong...there is no contradiction, there is only a misunderstanding of evolution.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333294)
And what exactly do you think caused evolution? Mutations...defects, abnormalities...the beneficial mutations survived, the non-beneficial mutations went down an evolutionary cul-de-sac and died out.

This is pretty basic stuff V, I grow tired...you need to show a better comprehension of evolution (plus your own religion) before I waste my time with you.

YOU THINK THIS IS THE X-MEN? RIOLFAKLFJ;LADSJKLFJAKLJ.....SO NOW, ALL MUTATIONS ARE BAD? BUT SOME MUTATIONS AT SOME POINT IN HISTORY WERE GOOD? GENETICS JUST CHANGED?

A MUTATION IS A NEGATIVE THING BRO.

DON'T GROW TIRED. DAD IS JUST PULLING THE BELT OUT.

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS CONCERNING OUR ORIGINS. WHERE DO WE COME FROM, IF NOT MADE OF GOD?

veritas 05-10-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333298)
I don't know where the first ancestor came from.

.



DOES NOT KNOW WHERE FIRST ANCESTOR CAME FROM. KNOWS IT IS NOT A MONKEY, KNOWS THAT GOD DID NOT MAKE IT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS YOUR HONOR.

NEXT?

veritas 05-10-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333298)
I don't know where the first ancestor came from.

I didn't contradict anyone..if someone in here was implying we evolved from monkeys they are wrong...there is no contradiction, there is only a misunderstanding of evolution.

ITP: WITTY STATES THAT OTHER EVOLUTIONERS CONTRADICT HIS UNDERSTANDING OF EVOLUTION.

veritas 05-10-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 333298)
I don't know where the first ancestor came from.

I didn't contradict anyone..if someone in here was implying we evolved from monkeys they are wrong...there is no contradiction, there is only a misunderstanding of evolution.

ITP: WITTY SAYS MILLZ DOESNT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

Destroyer 05-10-2014 01:34 PM

both us and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor
there is no god
veritas is proof of that

Witty 05-10-2014 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 333299)
YOU THINK THIS IS THE X-MEN? RIOLFAKLFJ;LADSJKLFJAKLJ.....SO NOW, ALL MUTATIONS ARE BAD? BUT SOME MUTATIONS AT SOME POINT IN HISTORY WERE GOOD? GENETICS JUST CHANGED?

A MUTATION IS A NEGATIVE THING BRO.

DON'T GROW TIRED. DAD IS JUST PULLING THE BELT OUT.

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS CONCERNING OUR ORIGINS. WHERE DO WE COME FROM, IF NOT MADE OF GOD?

Why are all mutations bad?

lol please explain that sentence.

Also, I dunno our common ancestor...nobody does, we are still looking for it.

But that doesn't add any weight to the idea that an invisible sky daddy is looking over all of us...there is still 0 evidence for that.

Creationists always do this when they lose...'you can't prove everything yet so we must be right, even though we can't prove anything ever'

Just because we are still looking for answers doesn't add any weight to your belief, it is still ridiculous. As I said before, if this is what you base your belief on then the basis for your belief is dwindling by the year my friend.


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