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...the Nagger 09-16-2013 01:52 PM

no, soon as you go to wikipedia it has on archie moore's page the #4 puncher crap you just said

he wasn't a #4 puncher when he was 38 tho, that's prolly something you didn't consider

...the Nagger 09-16-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenland (Post 153181)
I'm not hating him. He's of my favorites honestly but not one of the top 5. He was building a persona and he did it successfully. He was feared til people found out he was a quitter lol.

lol so is pacman a quitter?

you not making sense.

its not like tyson was getting punched one time and falling

he was a brawler who lost outside of his prime by KOs. he wasn't a quitter just because he got knocked out a few times after his prime

God Of War 09-16-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 153182)
no, soon as you go to wikipedia it has on archie moore's page the #4 puncher crap you just said

he wasn't a #4 puncher when he was 38 tho, that's prolly something you didn't consider

actually i knew he fought archie moore and knew archie moore was a champion so i looked it up on a boxing site ...i dont use wikipedia cuz its fucking gay and user submitted garbage most the time

...the Nagger 09-16-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 153186)
actually i knew he fought archie moore and knew archie moore was a champion so i looked it up on a boxing site ...i dont use wikipedia cuz its fucking gay and user submitted garbage most the time

word

but point is

archie moore was 38 when rocky faced him

a 38 yr oild brawler with over 140 matches under his belt at that point in time

Zen 09-16-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 153183)
lol so is pacman a quitter?

you not making sense.

its not like tyson was getting punched one time and falling

he was a brawler who lost outside of his prime by KOs. he wasn't a quitter just because he got knocked out a few times after his prime

Getting caught doesn't make you a quitter. Getting knocked down and just not getting up makes you a quitter. Getting the fuck beat out of you and getting dq'd instead of fighting it out makes you a quitter. The point is he quit early on and lost his heart and just stopped giving a fuck. After Cus D'Amoto
Like I've said before, early Tyson=the shit, one punch knockout power and some of the best defense ever. Later Tyson=One punch KO power but not much else. He just didn't dominate long enough to be a great imo.

God Of War 09-16-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 153190)
word

but point is

archie moore was 38 when rocky faced him

a 38 yr oild brawler with over 140 matches under his belt at that point in time

lol but still bro u can find a reason mayweather beat all of his oppenents to,, de la hoyas dog died, ortiz mom broke her foot

lmao he still won and they were still big name boxers at the time,,he didnt beat just no bodies

Zen 09-16-2013 02:07 PM

How about we say they're all great? lol

God Of War 09-16-2013 02:16 PM

ali vs tyson ....tyson wins


who agrees?

...the Nagger 09-16-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 153193)
lol but still bro u can find a reason mayweather beat all of his oppenents to,, de la hoyas dog died, ortiz mom broke her foot

lmao he still won and they were still big name boxers at the time,,he didnt beat just no bodies

PLEASE read this next sentence carefully.

List all the great fighters Rocky faced.

Then after that we can continue the convo.

...the Nagger 09-16-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenland (Post 153192)
Getting caught doesn't make you a quitter. Getting knocked down and just not getting up makes you a quitter. Getting the fuck beat out of you and getting dq'd instead of fighting it out makes you a quitter. The point is he quit early on and lost his heart and just stopped giving a fuck. After Cus D'Amoto
Like I've said before, early Tyson=the shit, one punch knockout power and some of the best defense ever. Later Tyson=One punch KO power but not much else. He just didn't dominate long enough to be a great imo.

he's not a quitter tho

you have a problem differentiating between getting beat and quitting.

Mike Tyson is retarded. He didn't get dq'd because he quit, he got dq'd because he is mentally retarded and got so angry at the approach Holyfield took in the ring that he bit him.

Every time tyson moved in to swing Holyfield completely balled up and grabbed Tyson, or he purposely placed his elbows, head in his way because he knew with his length he could use that approach and Tyson wouldn't be able to hit him.

It was weak imo but it worked, and was very frustrating. With Tyson being retarded he couldn't handle the frustration.

Zen 09-16-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 153213)
he's not a quitter tho

you have a problem differentiating between getting beat and quitting.

I've been saying the same thing for like two fucking pages lol.
Tyson has no heart. What is heart? The ability to take punishment and give it back in return. Why doesn't Tyson have heart? Because when he gets hit he QUITS.
Show me proof that says otherwise.

Defy Gravity 09-16-2013 03:23 PM

^
Tyson vs tucker

Tyson vs Ruddock

Tyson vs smith


all fighters who fought him hard

Joe Metts 09-16-2013 03:26 PM

Some of yall are stupid boxing fans.


I won't elaborate on that.


But i will say floyd has done nothing but outclass the best fighters in the world for 17 years. Canelo was 15 lbs heavier and was the biggest fight available in the world. Floyd made him look silly and is 13 years his elder. Floyd is a top 10 fighter. Ridiculous to think otherwise.

...the Nagger 09-16-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenland (Post 153215)
I've been saying the same thing for like two fucking pages lol.
Tyson has no heart. What is heart? The ability to take punishment and give it back in return. Why doesn't Tyson have heart? Because when he gets hit he QUITS.
Show me proof that says otherwise.

BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN 0 PROOF THAT HE'S A QUITTER

yea, we keep repeating the same thing because you don't know what a quitter is lol

tyson was not a quitter bro.

plus he DID get up against buster douglas, its still debated to this day whether or not he got up in time

Zen 09-16-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 153259)
BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN 0 PROOF THAT HE'S A QUITTER

yea, we keep repeating the same thing because you don't know what a quitter is lol

tyson was not a quitter bro.

plus he DID get up against buster douglas, its still debated to this day whether or not he got up in time

Once he got hit he'd never fuckin come back from it. Whereas Ali would keep comin back and if Tyson's one punch didn't work he fuckin quit tryin. Like I've said before Tyson is one of my favorites just because of his kos. But if he didn't get a ko he looked pitiful.
Tbh I've never seen anyone defend Tyson so much lol.

Baron Mynd 09-17-2013 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Neighbor (Post 153054)
Marciano?

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 153076)
Dead.

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 153086)
you are a moron stop speaking on boxing it makes you look fucking stupid


and sugar ray stats kill mayweather

jack dempsey>mayweather


rocky>mayweather

three suckers with one troll post

this is too easy sometimes, tbh :)

...the Nagger 09-17-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenland (Post 153275)
Once he got hit he'd never fuckin come back from it. Whereas Ali would keep comin back and if Tyson's one punch didn't work he fuckin quit tryin. Like I've said before Tyson is one of my favorites just because of his kos. But if he didn't get a ko he looked pitiful.
Tbh I've never seen anyone defend Tyson so much lol.

but ppl say Ali has no heart

which I also don't agree with

gettin dogged in the ring cuz you ain't in the right conditioning isn't the same as quitting, its just as simple as that

Tyson stood there toe to toe every time. If he fell it was cuz he took a real beating

there are matches where he got hit and DIDN'T fall yo, that should be proof right there to counter that argument.

Zen 09-17-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 153911)
but ppl say Ali has no heart

which I also don't agree with

gettin dogged in the ring cuz you ain't in the right conditioning isn't the same as quitting, its just as simple as that

Tyson stood there toe to toe every time. If he fell it was cuz he took a real beating

there are matches where he got hit and DIDN'T fall yo, that should be proof right there to counter that argument.

The point is if he got to a point where he couldn't knock them out he gave up. You won't convince me otherwise and I won't convince you ptherwise and I'd rather not spend today saying the same thing I did yesterday lol.
Am I the only person that thinks this about Tyson?

...the Nagger 09-17-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenland (Post 153943)
The point is if he got to a point where he couldn't knock them out he gave up. You won't convince me otherwise and I won't convince you ptherwise and I'd rather not spend today saying the same thing I did yesterday lol.
Am I the only person that thinks this about Tyson?

idk its just funny to me think about it

if he ISN'T hitting his opponent, and is getting hit, and it takes him til like round 9 to fall, that means he quit after getting beat on for rounds and not being able to hit his opponent?

I thought it was just called losing. but since he knocks ppl out if he gets knocked out its all of a sudden its him quitting

it just sounds funny.

uh-oh 09-17-2013 10:16 AM

tyson never quit mentally

he would gas and get beat tho.

after cus died his head was never right again. tyson is the GOAT hands down imo. for the simple fact no one could beat him. ali wouldnt have made it out of the second round.

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Originally Posted by Zenland (Post 153167)
6 of his five losses were by KO or TKO. Compare that to a guy like Ali (a boxer with heart) he got TKO'd once and that was because his corner stopped it. He bit Holyfield because he has no heart and knew he couldn't beat him so he wanted to get media attention and it worked. He's now known as that guy that bit that guy's ear off instead of one of the greatest.
I'm not saying he didn't fight better competition. He did. He's just a quitter. If he kept being serious about boxing and not all of the shit on the side he would easily be top 5.
And what do you mean he doesn't gas? He has asthma lol. Every fight that went longer than five rounds he was gassing.

he bit holyfield because every time they exchanged holyfield headbutted him

he blacked out and went savage and bit his ear off lmao, then continued to try and fight him afterward, not box, but fight.

tyson was a fucking warrior

when his mind was right he was unbeatable. trying to talk about tyson in the post buster douglas days is like trying to talk about roy jones jr now

what they do now shouldnt affect their legacy

uh-oh 09-17-2013 10:18 AM

although i did hear that tyson was ducking holyfield

holyfields always slept on. the real deal yo

but holyfields another dude who didnt take his career as smart as possible

didnt he take a loss to james toney when toney was beasting?

i miss late 90's early 00's boxing bro's

Witty 09-17-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 153970)

holyfields always slept on.


Baron Mynd 09-17-2013 10:36 AM

we need more videos in this thread, tbh

Zen 09-17-2013 10:39 AM

If ya'll read my posts I even said Tyson was unbeatable in his early days but then he stopped giving a fuck. Prime Tyson was a beast, but like I've said it didn't last long enough for him to be top 5. I've never said he wasn't good. I never even said he wasn't top 10. Just not top 5.
Look at other great heavyweights. They dominated for like a decade. Mike was maybe 5 years in his prime, why? Because he stopped giving a fuck. He even said in his later fights he was only doing it for the money which is why his record is shit in his later years. He was getting beat by mid tier boxers. Why? Because he stopped giving a fuck once again.
And I agree Holyfield doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Certain 09-17-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron Mynd (Post 153869)
three suckers with one troll post

this is too easy sometimes, tbh :)

I was laughing, fool.

...the Nagger 09-17-2013 11:56 AM

bruce lee cannot beat roy jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ6PKF9VTBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_XBYeGMdgY

Allen Knight 09-17-2013 12:16 PM

Roy was dope as fuck


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