ofc. but as several others said, it's highly unlikely that u hit a tiger right between the eyes if that thing's pouncing at u. so we have to assume that u hit 'em with a couple bullets, but probably none of them will go exactly into their brain or heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEKcAL0Kplc

look at this. the lion (which is essentially a weaker and slower tiger) is charging them from way more than 30 ft. and there is what? 5 men shooting at him? the lion mauls one guy and ACTUALLY MAKES IT AWAY. now put a tiger, which is bigger and faster than a lion, into a smaller cage with one human with a less accurate gun, and tell me that tiger isn't gonna fuck the poor dude up.

the way i see this going down

the tiger leaps at you with its claws out

you shoot it while its in the air hitting it in its stomach with a shit load of rounds

it lands on you, mauls you to death

the tiger then goes in the corner and dies in like twenty minutes

but at closer range the target is bigger also with in a smaller space there is less room for error. and them guns was shot by the waiste i always think a gun you hold closer to eye level is more accurate then shooting from the waiste

anyone thinking that a tigers gonna be unphased by 30 fucking 9mm bullets is retarded

i could understand if it was just a 9mm semi auto, like a cop firing on it with a glock. yea your gonna need more than that

but what you guys dont understand is that an uzi is as accurate as it needs to be, if i aim at its feet and just hold the trigger its not gonna recoil too crazy, at least 20 of the 30 rounds are hitting that tiger

whoever said animals don't register pain like humans is a retard. go kick a dog. go shoot anything

tigers arent super heroes.

they are majestic killing machines

and whoever keeps saying humans dont have a kill instinct and aint hunters stfuuuuuuu

killing is what humans do

like i said in a 30 ft enclosure its a tossup because of the random variables (do you know when the door lifts up that a tiger is coming out of a door across from you? are you a frail faggot incapable of simply pointing at the thing and holding the trigger, is the tiger a nutcase?)

so i can see the argument either way, but its not because man is a ho, its because tigers are G's.

and you guys obviously can't wrap your head around how insane an uzi shoots

a tiger isnt a bear. it isnt covered in crazy blubber and cold weather shit. its got tough skin like a bear from fighting other tigers and shit, but yo if you shoot it in the side that 9mm bullet is in its guts. if your shooting it direct one 9mm bullet is gonna fracture its skull at the least. crack it. if 4 of those bullets hit anywhere in the skull its heads gonna be a smashed coconut and the other 16 bullets sprayed its neck and back and front arms. thats if you are terrible and miss 1/3 of your shots

which you wont, because your at 30 fucking feet

if you cant shoot anything you can hit with a football kill yourself

Lol what world do you live in?

The AVERAGE human (notice the word average there, as in me and you) does not have a killer instinct, they live in a comfortable world, with no need to kill anything and have lost it, they would not last a second if they had to fend for themselves.

Pleassse dispute that,

Also, put more thought into what you're saying before you tell people to stfu, cuz it might come back on you.

The average human has lost their survival and hunting instinct...I don't even understand how you disagree with that lol

Mike Powell, a human, jumped 29 feet, 4¼ inches. Tigers can jump farther than humans. We're talking three steps and a leap for it to be entirely on top of you.

My best-case scenario bet is you kill the tiger but it lands, dead, on top of you and still feels like 600-plus pounds landing on top of you. More likely, the shots you land will be enough to cause the tiger to bleed out and die, but not before it lands on top of you and clubs you to death with a single paw swipe.

A trained hunter probably would prefer a long spear to an uzi in attacking a tiger for that reason. With a sharp and sturdy spear, you can keep some distance.

because we absolutely havent

go a couple days without food

look at what happens after natural disasters etc. we can revert to caveman QUICK when your children aint eating

and as far as the 9mm round being insufficient

im googling right now, and i dont know if you guys remember, or if it was just local news, but yo remember when that dude in NE ohio let all his exotic pets go and then killed himself?

well a police officer killed a bengal tiger that he stumbled across, with one shot from his 9mm service pistol

im sure it was probably an amazing shot. but thats just 1 bullet. throw 30 at it

I linked to a story about that on the first page of this thread. I think the story you're thinking of was about a lion. The tigers were by far the hardest for them to track down.

yeah i completely agree i dont knwo where witty got we have lost our survival instinct that shit is absurd. theres stories everyay of survival. we still have it and its still very much alive


also the tiger gets a couple bullets in his brain it isnt going to land on you and swipe you its going to land on you and be dead weight literally

Right, I think you'd have to hit it in the brain, though. Without doing that, it'll still get to you and be alive enough to hit you, even if it was going to die from the wounds, too.

no doubt, but they murked the fuck out of them

heres another article, who knows it might be what you linked lol

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10...ers-and-lions/

that was already after being agitated/tranq'd and he downed it from 15 feet with a service pistol

in the slow mo, u can clearly see they're not shooting from the waist. and the lion is approaching them. so as he gets nearer, they should be able to hit them by your logic, which they don't do. so all my points still stand.

which means the tiger might die too, but the human ain't coming out alive.

Amongst other people who also have no survival instinct lol

The average person does not know how to hunt, they do not know how to skin an animal, they do not know how to cook an animal that doesn't come from a store...they don't know how to make fire without using matches or a lighter, they do not know how to get the best out of their environment if they can't buy it, left alone with no food and no water in a forest full of animals and potential food, most people would die because they don't know how to survive....these are basic skills that the average 1st world person does not have any longer.

Would you survive in a forest alone for months? Or even with a group of people, if you had to make shelters, make weapons, kill animals, cook animals, make clothing, live through winter months, protect yourself from disease and infections, defend yourself and your family from wild animals with weapons you have to make yourself, if you literally had nothing and were left alone to fend for yourself...would you survive?

I am guessing not, and I would not either....but I know this because I am realistic.

Also, the average person does not think 'Kill'....the average person thinks 'Hide, and stay alive'

Dispute it all you want, if you put the average 1st world person in the wild to hunt and survive...it would not be long before they were dead.

the chest area isnt much different then wasite imo. and as i said them dudes had different guns a wider area for error. its much easier to miss. if u try to shoot a fish in a river chances are you will miss. if u try to shoot a fish in a barrel the odds go into ur favor.

it was a 300 pound tiger, who was most likely already weakened by the tranquilizer. tigers can weigh up to 850 pounds tho (source). i honestly do not believe u can one shot such a tiger charging u from a 30 ft distance. and while u def can hit him with an uzi, u won't instantly kill him, which means that he will get to u and kill u. he might die afterwards tho. that's for sure.

a lone wolf can't live on its own for long

humans are pack animals. tribes and shit yo, we depend on the collective groups effort. a human on his own is like a wolf on its own. it can survive for a longgg time. IF its a bad motherfucker. if it aint, it will die. whether its a wild animal or a soft human

he would fucking die from 30 bullets

man your going by assumption, alot of people would survive and have survived in situations where they was never prepared nor trained for. its our survival instinct. and yeas i believe i could survive in a situation like that. and your wrong about the average person aswell your getting ur facts fucked up and our race is capable of much more then you are saying as i said before there is stories of it every day. would some die? of course but alot would live aswell

People do not know how to fend for themselves anymore, this is obvious...are you people fucking kidding me? lol

I wasn't aware I was on a site full of survivalists lol

SOME people can do this shit...but most of us would die very quickly.

Put the average family in the same environment....nobody in an average family has any sort of survival knowledge...how would they stay alive?

Magic?

i dont fucking get how people think any animal can have numerous bullets int here brain and still live or attack you from it

Twice

Even a human, if you rattled his gut and legs and arms and even jaw up with 30 bullets, would stay alive for a few minutes.

In this scenario, you hit the brain or you die.

Keep in mind that cop was trained with a gun and that tiger was charging at someone else, not him.

u're drawing weird comparisons. but anyways, u cannot honestly tell me that an uzi is more accurate than a rifle shot the way those men do it, which is on their knees, with their face right next to it. (idk the english vocab to describe the postion more accurately.) that'd be delusional.

we are naturally survivalists. the shit is proven constantly over and over again

i am saying that exactly, smaller space, closer target, odds are much more in your favor. uve been hunting im sure?

never denied he would. but he would NOT die instantly. and that's the whole point. because that means he' still gonna get u.

I think you're wrong.

I think the majority die...the world we live in is so closed off from anything like that...how could they survive?

They have never had to deal with it...nobody in their family has had to deal with it for hundreds of years...how do they get through winters, and deal with infections and diseases?

I think it's the opposite....some may live, but most will die.

heart shots kill /brain shots kill ive never seen an animal get shot directly in his brain and walk away and die some where else and ive never seen one get shot in his heart and walk off and die some where else

absolutely. magic.

FIRE. it is magic. if one of those people in that family was a boy scout for a day he learned how to make a fire with sticks

what if someone in that family was an actual hunter? he knows how to track animals, lets say he doesnt have a gun, he still knows how to snare shit etc.

thats just one "average" dude. he's already got fire and food for his family. his family in the mean time is finding water. now they're building shelter.

its that simple. find water. get shelter. get food. you'll be fine

most people would die off from scarcity over everything

we have a natural ability to survive its what we have done for thousands of years.

You die

That's the outcome

No matter what, the tiger kills you

Also, a survival instinct will only get you so far...unless you actually have some knowledge of hunting, knowledge of infections and diseases and how to prevent them, knowledge of what is good to eat and what is not, knowledge of finding food and building shelters...you die.

Do any of you have that knowledge? Cuz I don't....and I don't know anybody who does.

a rifle is a long range weapon, it loses its effectiveness at close range because you cant move and be accurate with the long barrel and fire single shots

an uzi is a close quarters weapon, it is much more accurate when you take in the fact a single trigger pull can throw out 30 bullets. you can shoot from the hip and be more accurate than with a rifle at 30 feet

The AVERAGE man is not a hunter though...that is ridiculous, the average man in the world today does not know shit about snaring things wtf lol

I'm saying take a typical suburban family and put them in an environment where they are no longer the top of the food chain...they die more often than not.

Rawn to thread

the great thing about humans is we have a fast ability to learn and adapt. there is no way you couldnt figure out how to build a shelter? how to hunt or kill a fucking rabbit a bird or eat something?

I'll make this 100 percent guarantee: I would die in this scenario. Maybe you're harder than me. That's not too impressive. But I'd be fucking dead.

the space doesn't have anything to do with it, if the tiger's is running at u directly like the lion in the video is. it's only the distance. and the distance is actually better in the lion video. because if those men didn't hit him when he charged from more than a 100 ft away directly up to them, how are they gonna hit him if he charges from 30 ft away directly up to him? if u lower the distance, that only means u have less time to hit him.
by your logic, if the tiger is only 30 ft away when he starts charging u, it's easier to hit him. but at one point the lion in the vid WAS only 30 ft away. and they didn't hit him hard enough during the time he needed to run the 30 ft directly up to them. as a matter of fact, they didn't even hit him during the time he needed to close a distance of more than a 100 ft.

and yes, that's another thing i'm not denying. my point is that u would not be able to hit him directly in the brain.

proof of that is found above.