Fair.

I mean that you “qualm” is not the only character you play here. You are not new here and for you to act otherwise is delusional and not effective as it gives me ample opportunity to pick apart your foundation.

Who are some other characters you play here? Were they all as much failures as you?

Y’all wanna just come to my thread... or?

It's in the title of his book, plus his phone number traces back to a Murphy account...

Oh and also knuck starving for my attention hard itt....

Lol

nah im done here. i like you, v

Mock or clone?

Which? Choose wisely so we can move beyond the 9th portal to the exponent pointless thread and discussion, friend.

What is logic, V?

I’d very much like to here your justification of God, as well.

Shameless plug

Spoken like a true views slut.

Don’t do that, Dre. Cmon man.

For the purposes of our talk I would define logic as things making sense

Just to make you think I would say that my justification for God is this:

The only two explanations for how we came to exist is that God made us or that we slowly evolved from nothing.

Being created makes more sense.

2 strawmans 1 sentence, new Veritas Porno.

I don’t think that definition of logic is very useful, but would you say all things true are logical? Even if we don’t see how they must be?

Why is we slowly evolved from “something” not an option to you?

It’s the whole slowly evolving from nothing. I have no problem with adaptation ie a giraffes neck.

We have tried to discuss this before.

I think there are levels sir. For an example what looks like chaos to us very well might be a great order we are unable to comprehend. Ie the random swerving of subatomic particles.

Fair?

What theory have you read where one postulates that at one point there was “nothing” and then something arose from it?

Lmfao fucking @Destroyer

Legit one of my NC favs, man.

The theory of evolution.

Lemme show how you’re wrong.

the example you gave wasn’t illogical, we just couldn’t see the logic in it at one point. I mean what is logical is what is true not necessarily what makes sense to us, if it’s truly perfectly logical, it must be true or possible.

would you agree with that?

Straw man

Say that in a way that is simpler please?

Is your whole gimmick to say things which you don’t understand?

nah theory of evolution suggests all species evolved from a single cell and through billions of years of different mutations eventually turned into various forms of aquatic species, which became amphibious species, which turned into various forms of land species, etc. etc.

the foundation of what created the universe is illogical no matter how you frame it. You suggest God created the universe because he himself is able to defy logic and therefore doesn't have a creator, which doesn't make any more or less sense than the universe itself being able to defy logic and therefore not having a creator

the difference is that science doesn't claim the universe came from nothing. it doesn't claim that the universe came from a creator. it doesn't even claim that God doesn't exist. it doesn't claim anything that it doesn't have replicable mathematical & observable proof of.

Religion has a book that says "we have all the answers"

Science says "We don't have the answers, brb gonna keep working to find them and we may not make any progress in your lifetime, sorry"

I'd rather be in a society that's actively looking for answers and uncomfortable with the level of uncertainty that comes with not knowing than in a society of people deluded into believing we have nothing more to learn

fair?

No.

Where did the first cell come from?


Edit: well said. I choose to Believe in the illogical ability of God to exist without being created than creating us than to believe in nothing evolving into a cell.

stars e.g. the sun go through a life cycle that causes them to explode - novas/supernovas, to which they emit most of the same atoms that compose the majority of life on earth: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen. earth had the ingredients that allowed for life to develop e.g. an atmosphere, water, appropriate distance from the sun, etc. etc. earth clumped together, along with all the other planets and dwarf planets and random clumps that we don't get educated on in an elementary school mnemonic and all those ingredients eventually combined to make a cell. It's pretty much like any chemistry, reactions happen. A cake doesn't appear out of thin air as a cake.

as for what the key ingredient is that separates a human from a rock, idk man you're gonna have to challenge yourself to speak with a smarter audience than people on a rap forum, but before you do you need to realize you're eventually gonna hit this roadblock

and if you can't be content with that void, idk what to tell you. I don't know how planes work, I just know praying isn't going to get me from one side of the world to other. If my plane crashes, it's because of an erroneous calculation, not a malicious God who wanted to see me dead. If I undergo an operation and survive, it's because of a competent doctor who learned from thousands of years of medical malpractice gone wrong that failed on patients who were historically likely to be far more pious than our society is today.

Not gonna lie. Qualm is growing on me

Veritas can’t seem to understand that his answer to “where did the first (insert anything here) come from?” question is always god and science says “ok, god, word.... proof?” And that’s where his argument falls apart into nothing.

You simplified the theory of evolution, which is a straw man.

All about the blood flow.

I understand it guys.


Once again: for the thousand time...over the last decade.... We have only been given two choices to explain our existence.

God created us
We evolved from nothing

I choose to believe God created us. To me it makes more sense. Both are something coming from nothing.

I choose to have faith in the former.

What is foolish about this?

what's foolish is that you're choosing anything at all before all the facts have been discerned and the answer you've chosen encourages you to stop discerning facts

Nothing really, except your extreme confidence in one over the other.

So do we agree logic is basically truth, and the way we derive truth?

Rip

No one has ever said we evolved from nothing
It’s a lot easier to discount things when you misunderstand them, I’m sure.

Yes you have many times. Then you said you didn’t know. Then you said you didn’t know but it def was not god, then the last time you said it might be god but there is no proof.


To which I said fair.

Which brings us to today.

Is this accurate of our decade long talk?

Completely. Except the part where you claim that I said things.

Lol funny nigga...it seems there's a lot of canine member lovers on site, thought I was the only one, aww.

Lmao

Veritas' troll is getting boring and keeps hooking and baiting the same people for years, destro, db, now dms ...don't y'all ever get tired of typing to this fucking craze lunatic?...about the same shit...

He legit doesn't like you though. Idk why but I'm starting to get pissed that you haven't proposed to your BM. Shit's bothering me she gave you two boys what more do you want?