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veritas 10-12-2018 01:26 PM

That’s fair. I just don’t know what your level is. I know that at the brown belt level if he got you on the ground he could murder you literally if he chose to.

veritas 10-12-2018 01:27 PM

Dre,

Before I continue with you is this going to turn into a thread about your ego lol?

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706179)
I wasn't taking the word killer literally.

I took it as "Awesome" or "Defeat" but not literally as in he would kill me as in murder me.

I took it as if we were to grapple he would certainly beat me but in a stand up boxing match he could not.

"Fair?"

So the general intensity of the exercise of body and mind in a combat environment wouldn’t help someone in hand to hand as well? Against someone that isn’t versed highly in anything?

I’m sure diode would toss you with hands and feet tbrr

veritas 10-12-2018 01:32 PM

Fair point knuck

Amen 10-12-2018 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706180)
That’s fair. I just don’t know what your level is. I know that at the brown belt level if he got you on the ground he could murder you literally if he chose to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706181)
Dre,

Before I continue with you is this going to turn into a thread about your ego lol?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706183)
So the general intensity of the exercise of body and mind in a combat environment wouldn’t help someone in hand to hand as well? Against someone that isn’t versed highly in anything?

I’m sure diode would toss you with hands and feet tbrr

You are taking the word "Killer" literally.

It's common knowledge a jujitsu guy is not beating a boxer in a boxing ring. And a Boxer is not beating a jujitsu guy on his platform is all I was getting at.

In a mixed martial arts match, most likely Diode would win because I have no training in jujitsu and as a kid I trained in Tae Kwon Do which is SHIT, IMO.

@veritas - I've trained and competed in boxing since I was 9 years old. I have not competed in the last decade but I'm actually working on opening a GYM/school in my neighborhood as many have expressed interest but there aren't any training facilities in the area where I reside. I want to open up a GYM for kids - to help keep them off of the streets and work on character and self discipline as its a great platform to do so aside from MMA which again, there aren't m,any of those around either in these parts of PA. My oldest attends a Gracie school that's close to 35 minutes away from me. Closest one outside of NYC.

Amen 10-12-2018 01:37 PM

Oh yea, @Knucklehead - stfu bro

Remind us of how you competed in the UFC man.

FOH...

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706185)
You are taking the word "Killer" literally.

It's common knowledge a jujitsu guy is not beating a boxer in a boxing ring. And a Boxer is not beating a jujitsu guy on his platform is all I was getting at.

In a mixed martial arts match, most likely Diode would win because I have no training in jujitsu and as a kid I trained in Tae Kwon Do which is SHIT, IMO.

@veritas - I've trained and competed in boxing since I was 9 years old. I have not competed in the last decade but I'm actually working on opening a GYM/school in my neighborhood as many have expressed interest but there aren't any training facilities in the area where I reside. I want to open up a GYM for kids - to help keep them off of the streets and work on character and self discipline as its a great platform to do so aside from MMA which again, there aren't m,any of those around either in these parts of PA. My oldest attends a Gracie school that's close to 35 minutes away from me. Closest one outside of NYC.

But someone with a 12 gauge isn't a killer because someone could have a sniper rifle?

By your logic no one is a killer unless they are the ultimate killer which just seems dumb my man

Amen 10-12-2018 01:40 PM

Depends on distance. A shotgun isn't killing someone 200 yards away now is it? Let alone 60 yards. A Sniper is. NO matter the distance.


Stfu man... That was not my logic you are reaching.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706186)
Oh yea, @Knucklehead - stfu bro

Remind us of how you competed in the UFC man.

FOH...

Find where I said I competed in the UFC lmao

Said I did amateur MMA

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706189)
Depends on distance. A shotgun isn't killing someone 200 yards away now is it? Let alone 60 yards. A Sniper is. NO matter the distance.


Stfu man... That was not my logic you are reaching.

It is your logic though. And now you're trying to defend it against an analogy lmao. But your defense was dumb. Close quarters vs long distance, both killers. One is not best in both. There are medium ground too, you could call karate an assault rifle in this case.

You're saying because someone that has a brown belt in BJJ could possibly lose a fight to someone that boxes, it means they aren't a killer. Yet you're ignoring 99% of the population that would be killed.

High level combat being greater than or equal to other high level combat does not make both no longer high level combat

Amen 10-12-2018 01:45 PM

Ok, man.

Anyone could lose a fucking fight, guy - regardless of training.

For the last time, stfu.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706192)
Ok, man.

Thank you for admitting you use flawed logic because of ego

Good day

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 01:46 PM

Ah man, look at me calling out your ego and you edit your post before I can even say ego with ego

veritas 10-12-2018 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706185)
You are taking the word "Killer" literally.

It's common knowledge a jujitsu guy is not beating a boxer in a boxing ring. And a Boxer is not beating a jujitsu guy on his platform is all I was getting at.

In a mixed martial arts match, most likely Diode would win because I have no training in jujitsu and as a kid I trained in Tae Kwon Do which is SHIT, IMO.

@veritas - I've trained and competed in boxing since I was 9 years old. I have not competed in the last decade but I'm actually working on opening a GYM/school in my neighborhood as many have expressed interest but there aren't any training facilities in the area where I reside. I want to open up a GYM for kids - to help keep them off of the streets and work on character and self discipline as its a great platform to do so aside from MMA which again, there aren't m,any of those around either in these parts of PA. My oldest attends a Gracie school that's close to 35 minutes away from me. Closest one outside of NYC.

That’s fair. You should train it

Amen 10-12-2018 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706194)
Ah man, look at me calling out your ego and you edit your post before I can even say ego with ego

Nah, just don't feel like going back and forth with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706197)
That’s fair. You should train it

Always consider it - have tried it but not for me. Which this was explained a while back. The homophobia thing (Remember lol). Don't knock anyone who does it, my teenager does it and loves it... Just not for me... ANother reason why I didn't wrestle in high school. Tried it and didn't like it.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706200)
Nah, just don't feel like going back and forth with you.



Always consider it - have tried it but not for me. Which this was explained a while back. The homophobia thing (Remember lol). Don't knock anyone who does it, my teenager does it and loves it... Just not for me... ANother reason why I didn't wrestle in high school. Tried it and didn't like it.

That’s a convenient way of being wrong lmao

Teach your students to hide from their problems too they’ll be great defensive boxers

Amen 10-12-2018 02:03 PM

Have you ever trained anyone?

Clearly you don't train a certain way/style. You train basic mechanics and technique and allow them to develop a style and proceed to help them develop that, BOZO.

Done w/ you here, Knuck.

Diode 10-12-2018 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706192)
Ok, man.

Anyone could lose a fucking fight, guy - regardless of training.

For the last time, stfu.

this is true.

best way to not lose a fight is to avoid one, which everyone should do.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706203)
Have you ever trained anyone?

Clearly you don't train a certain way/style. You train basic mechanics and technique and allow them to develop a style and proceed to help them develop that, BOZO.

Done w/ you here, Knuck.

I was obviously making a dig at you being a coward?

This low IQ response matches your inability to defend your arguments very well.

veritas 10-12-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 706204)
this is true.

best way to not lose a fight is to avoid one, which everyone should do.

when did you get brown belt?

Diode 10-12-2018 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706207)
when did you get brown belt?

a little bit ago

veritas 10-12-2018 02:17 PM

vague, but fair.

So....I drive up there, would it be free roll, or would you teach me some stuff too? I would be willing to learn.

Diode 10-12-2018 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706214)
vague, but fair.

So....I drive up there, would it be free roll, or would you teach me some stuff too? I would be willing to learn.

free roll and some basic q&a unless you're buying that steak and then whatever you want to work on. give me a head's up so i can open the gym for it.

veritas 10-12-2018 02:24 PM

Bet.

what is your favorite submission?

Diode 10-12-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706220)
Bet.

what is your favorite submission?

cross choke.

veritas 10-12-2018 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 706221)
cross choke.

and what is your height and weight currently?

Diode 10-12-2018 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706224)
and what is your height and weight currently?

5'10" 175lb

veritas 10-12-2018 02:29 PM

Ok perfect. I have slimmed down to 175 myself. give or take a couple of pounds and I am 5/11 so we would be good on the size front.

I need all the rolls I can get with better opponents.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 02:29 PM

girth?

veritas 10-12-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706228)
girth?

not a whole lot anymore, I am pretty freaking lean now.

Amen 10-12-2018 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706206)
I was obviously making a dig at you being a coward?

This low IQ response matches your inability to defend your arguments very well.

Drop the V persona - doesn't suit you very well.

LOL @ coward. Yeah ok kid... Shall someone resurrect King Karaoke - so we could all watch Knuck tuck tail and run.

Word @Diode

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 706231)
Drop the V persona - doesn't suit you very well.

LOL @ coward. Yeah ok kid... Shall someone resurrect King Karaoke - so we could all watch Knuck tuck tail and run.

Word @Diode

lol how is calling you out on being stupid a V persona

a coward and a retard

@King Karaoke is a bigger coward and retard though

Amen 10-12-2018 02:48 PM

How were you calling me out, tho?

Because you took the word "killer" literally?

But a shotgun and a sniper bleh blah blah bleh... Man stfu...

No. Try again, guy.

Diode 10-12-2018 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706227)
Ok perfect. I have slimmed down to 175 myself. give or take a couple of pounds and I am 5/11 so we would be good on the size front.

I need all the rolls I can get with better opponents.

you will definitely have a challenge at around the same weight.

we promoted a guy to blue belt a week or two ago but i didn't get a chance to help him break it in until today.

i hope he comes back :)

~RustyGunZ~ 10-12-2018 02:53 PM

You used the word killer literally to defend the case they cannot literally be killers. Your case was that this was true because regardless of experience in combat, someone else could best you in a different arena of combat. So you're saying that no matter the tool of potential killing, that someone else may posses a tool of killing that would better suite an opposing arena of killing. So your logic says no one can be a killer unless they have the ultimate tool to kill.

This is stupid logic. You cannot defend it in a way that isn't dumb.

Ghost1 10-12-2018 03:12 PM

amen currently amidst a 3 page argument over the literal interpretation of the word killer....after the person who initially used the word emphatically stated that it was intended to be taken literally

I log in....or these days maybe even just ghost because why log in if theres nothing worth responding to....and I wonder to myself.....how is there actually anyone on this site that doesn't hate amen with every fiber of their existence?

how?

name one redeeming quality about him that doesn't make u want to remove him from life

one

veritas 10-12-2018 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 706236)
amen currently amidst a 3 page argument over the literal interpretation of the word killer....after the person who initially used the word emphatically stated that it was intended to be taken literally

I log in....or these days maybe even just ghost because why log in if theres nothing worth responding to....and I wonder to myself.....how is there actually anyone on this site that doesn't hate amen with every fiber of their existence?

how?

name one redeeming quality about him that doesn't make u want to remove him from life

one

what do you mean by remove?

Ghost1 10-12-2018 03:14 PM

just ya know.... maybe one day he wasn't here anymore?

I don't need violence

just...ya know....poof

veritas 10-12-2018 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 706234)
you will definitely have a challenge at around the same weight.

we promoted a guy to blue belt a week or two ago but i didn't get a chance to help him break it in until today.

i hope he comes back :)

That is exactly what I was thinking lol, and good.

I think I am on the path towards blue, but it is a ways away, I am just now starting to be able to relax a little.

I still get smashed by purples and up, and the blues beat me pretty easy.
I can smash new whites though.

Amen 10-12-2018 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706235)
You used the word killer literally to defend the case they cannot literally be killers. Your case was that this was true because regardless of experience in combat, someone else could best you in a different arena of combat. So you're saying that no matter the tool of potential killing, that someone else may posses a tool of killing that would better suite an opposing arena of killing. So your logic says no one can be a killer unless they have the ultimate tool to kill.

This is stupid logic. You cannot defend it in a way that isn't dumb.

No.

Again, you are using the word Kill literally where I wasn't - dumb ass.

Keep trying to poke our women breasted chest out tho to fulfill your ego here.

Would you like me to say, Hey Knuck man, You were so absolutely right dude. Like I was wrong and you were super right.

That what you want?


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