pac has a case ill agree

im not sure I have the time or energy to dispute it today tho

Drake sucks

So Nas doesn't have a goat argument?

Jay-Z lost a face to face battle to bizzy bone

The John Stockton paradox

While I agree - his views and sales beg to differ.

With Tupac if ppl would only focus on the material intentionally released his body of work is near flawless

Vito. Go peep thread i made for u

Scroll down past joe budden tracks to the next artist i put in there for you. Vids are all present. Ull dig this cat Spoonfull for you situation. His emo heartbreak shit is gold. Pz

Bet

How did this turn into a cornball conversation about Pac now?

I would neg the living hell out of you. Idiot

My thread started out as its dark n hell is hot is better than any jay album....that got flipped into jay being goat...then the goat talks start and anytime there is a greatest rapper disscussion Tupac is automatically involved.

Now PAC made 5 albums he intentionally released...even 7dt was intentionAl

Out the 5 you have 3 critically acclaimed classics

Me against the world...all eyes and 7dt.

Some even call his debut a classic...

Actually a argument could be made for all 5

Shit. Ru still down classic imo. And whonu know that didnt have that pacs greatest hits double disc with changes on it. Everyone i knew did. Including me. And all his shit is double disc. Way more material than anyone else per album

But whatever..

Quality > Quantity

Exactly that's why biggie and PAC are better than jay.

You're dumb. But that's ok...it's allowed

That's about 3 times you have made childish comments with nothing to support them

Next I guess I will be a doo doo head

Just to throw a spanner in the works...if you want to talk about achievements and accolades as well as talent...Eminem is the greatest of all time.

Objectively.

Why do you think you can keep quoting me with your half-assed arguments anyway?

Of all the people to put up against Jay or Nas you chose DMX and then you pull the obvious out with Pac. Come on man. You're a young cat who just fell into this whole genre. Better stick to G Eazy tracks

ms. lauryn hill made one solo studio album and is the GOAT

/thread

I think X debut album is better than all of Jay-Z and all of nas except 2.

Im not the only person who feels this way...lots of ppl do...hell Lord Jamar called it dark n hell is hot the GREATEST debut ever...ppl recognize the greatness of that album just fan boys of Jay-Z try to over blow his LP's

So...in conclusion.

Your opinion is a thoughtful and measured one. Everyone else's opinion is a mixture of delusion/bias/and stanning.

Correct?

Not at all.

Just I am right and everybody else isn't me so by defualt they are wrong. Its simple actually

So basically exactly what I said.

LoL

No. Exactly what I said

Now that i thin about it. Vol.2 is pretty close to being as good as id&hih. Vol2 my fav jay album as a whole. Easy. Idk why it just is. Hard knock life nikkaz

Lol at dmx
Number one barker all time

I haven’t read any of this thread.

But from my understanding isn’t Nas’ illmatic the greatest debut?

People need to realize opinions aren't facts.

I can see why people often confuse the 2 but until they realize the difference, these arguments will continue to go in circles when ever brought up.

Hip Hop's based off opinions/preference, as far as "GOATS" and who's the greatest.

That's a lot of ppl opinons

funny how stupidity overlooks Liquid Swords though

Liquid swords is super dope