if you agree, and concede it's only a super minority, then you agree in a high majority of instances it's not a choice. correct?

bruh

you don't remember a fucking thing from birth.

neither do i.

reply to the thing that wasn't a response to you. 10/10 selective hearing at your age.

semantics playa. if the mental perspective goes as far as to confirm with yourself that you are superior than other beings on this planet simply because of arbitrary things like skin color, we as a society consider it an illness.

haven't you ever heard any former racists or ex-clansmen talk about why they used to be the way they were?

but my point is that trans people in all instances that i've heard talk about their realization refer to a time when they knew they were the gender opposite of what they were told to be as young children, soon after the age of when our first memories begin

unless you're claiming they can learn to feel like the opposite gender for the rest of their lives at an age prior to having memories

i wouldn't feel right getting into infant psychology without @veritas here.

Or @TYSON

absolutely.

the problem i have with that statement is "we as a society", who is the we in that? i didn't hear this racism is a mental illness talk until literally the other day. when did "we" decide this?

as for the question, no i havent heard former racists or ex-clansmen talk about why they were racist. were they prescribed some medicine by big pharma that cured them? or did they just change their mind one day after an epiphany? maybe one day i'll get an epiphany and my "depression" will go away.

Lol yo, dawgs, what if a trans was racist

What if someone was only racist when it came to black trannies?

HOW DARE YOU assign a mental illness to a human who doesn't accept the gender they were scientifically born with

Still reeling from Wasim spoiling GoT just posting off desperation

if you agree it's not a choice do you also believe racism isn't a choice? if not, do you see why the two don't have to go hand in hand in diagnosing mental illness?

i understand your problem with that, i guess i can only claim reference to americans who disagree with racism but don't let our disagreement of racism interfere with our diagnosis of where it is coming from. if you exclude racists and centrists, the only reactions to racists seem to be punch them in the face and/or extinguish them from our society, or sit down and educate/introduce them to members of other races to dissipate what they've previously been conditioned to feel.

as far as your last two questions, the answer is neither. they came to realize that their prejudice was rooted in self-loathing, insecurity, lack of experience, and fear projected as hate and anger. i believe some of those symptoms are the common denominator in all forms of prejudice as in gender or class.

lmao word man. i tried to put the point across a couple times to wait till sunday to discuss it. he did it with the first leak too (episode 4) commenting that "the battle was dope!!" or whatever in reference to the dragon/lannister battle.

i feel blame for letting everyone know it leaked. i just would want to know if an episode leaked and tried to do right by my fellow ncg's.

at this point you might as well watch it lol.

I'm eating wine gums and they say 'made with natural colours' but there's black ones lol wot.

I mean, it’s your choice @uh-oh

i never said they did. i was just pointing out something i saw as ridiculous. if either were a mental illness, it would obviously be being transgender. i would be more apt to agree that racism is a mental illness, if being transgender is was. but thats just my opinion at the end of the day. its far more loony to me to want to cut off your dick and grow tits

the main reaction to racists is to ignore them. their were 500 people at the unite the right rally for example. 500. they drove in from all over the country, that country with a population of what 350,000,000. 500. meeting them with violence gets that violence returned. you're not going to be able to reason with idiots.

just ignore them, they're buffoons. if they become violent, we have a justice system in place to deal with them, or anyone else who breaks the law.

i just don't see the giant problem everyone else does. but in saying that, i'm racist for not acknowledging the brewing storm of nazi-ism set to overtake america

Just so you know, I agree with 100% of what you just wrote under that second boof quote

i feel like you're ignoring the point i already made. if we agree transgender is an involuntary physical feeling then how is it obviously a mental illness? and if racism is learned and can be un-learned how is it not the one more appropriately labeled a sickness of the mind?



no, you're not racist, you're just uninformed. i don't know where in god's green earth you got the number 500 from but it's about 400x less than the number i read and i'm fairly certain it's at least 12x less than the lowest number i saw from any source. there's been a huge increase in public appearances by neo-nazi's and white nationalists, speaking conferences, rallies, media appearances, etc. and it's not because of counter protests, but because of trump's campaign and election. if you don't know about the rise in hate crimes since the end of last year, specifically against jews and muslims then you should catch up before forming your opinion. suggesting we have a justice system that will take care of nazi's and racists is another uninformed statement. our justice system employs plenty of racists. alternatively who in their right fucking mind trusts the justice system to deal with anything appropriately? there's 9 people with active warrants for taking down the confederate statue in north carolina and there are zero people with active warrants for the hate crime of collectively jumping and beating a 20 year old black man with clubs at the unite the right rally the day before.

i read the number 500 from some conservative or libertarian comedian i follow on twitter. i just spewed it out. if the number is much less thats a good thing lol.

the problem with saying there is a huge increase in public appearances by neo nazi's and white nationalists is alot of people who aren't those things get labeled it. those same miniscule number tend to try to attend normal conservative pro trump events, which gets the whole event labeled as nazis by shit like the antifa. why, because richard spencer showed up?

and its shitty they don't have any warrants out on the people who beat that dude, i saw the clips and all that, and everyone sharing the faces of the alleged dudes and etc. but we can go back and forth on each little skirmish from every one of these events and nit pick to build a narrative that suits our agenda.

its all fucked man

We should of never segregated.

Archie was right

no brother

i said your number is that many times less than the real number. if you saw any of the clips you'd know that 500 sounds ridiculous. every number i saw was between 6k and 20k. just so you know, in america right now, 20k is an outrageous number for any rally that isn't the women's march or the cavs championship parade.

the people i'm referring to are not being mislabeled. i know you aren't following closely so i also know you're giving people the benefit of the doubt because you're assuming there can't possibly be that many nazi's and nationalists. if you can find me one example of a prominent figure in the right movement that is being mislabeled i will concede this point

i agree that we shouldn't lump everyone at rallies into one group but follow me here playa because you have a misinformed view of what the rally looked like


people attended the rally either to protest the taking down of a statue depicting the leader of the confederacy that brought up arms to fight the rest of the USA, or to "unite the right"

white supremacists showed up
white nationalists showed up
neo-nazi's showed up
a private militia with more weapons than the police showed up

now lets pretend there are people that showed up as nothing more than conservatives genuinely interested in progressing the republican party (everyone knew who was showing up btw) and once they got there, all the aforementioned groups are chanting "blood and soil" and "one race, one nation, end immigration" and "jews won't replace us" and "david duke" and you STICK AROUND or CONTINUE TO MARCH or ALSO CHANT you are clearly allowed to be labeled under the same umbrella. to anyone that left when that happened, i rescind all my prior statements. i challenge you to find one video of that happening. and furthermore, i challenge you to find one video of the people attending not engaging in the rhetoric of those hate groups.

the justice system didn't do a fucking thing about an armed militia at the bundy ranch, they don't do anything about police involved homocides, and they don't do much about racism or hate crimes committed by whites. so don't pretend.

they've been emboldened, and they've decided to show off and further their agenda's. and there are too many of them. that's not disputable at this point.

"we're starting to slowly unveil a little bit of our power level"

and just so you get an idea of who these new cats are outside of those aged over 40 who are obviously not new and just seasoned racist veterans with a new voice, the bulk of them are (not joking) white gamers who were previously unrooted in politics and i don't know if you know anything about steve bannon but his former company made millions of dollars off of whatever the fuck gold farming is but i know he incentivized WoW nerds and whatever other games people played a decade ago to steal shit and sell it back to the gamers and once he realized how easy they were to control he rolled it over into breitbart in the last few years and let memes and anti-white rhetoric recruit millions of little basement trolls on 4chan and /b/ and reddit into the new alt-right (even though he himself think's they're "clowns/losers/goobers") and once trump got going they organized and showed up more effectively than any other current political group. they have a lot of momentum. and its increasing. this is why it's a big deal. just fyi

also this bullshit

i've watched too many blm protests with 3' neutral zone's and police assault the fuck out of hundreds of protesters anyways

natives protest = national guard water cannons dog attacks
blacks protest = militarized pd automatic rounds of rubber bullets assault
whites protest = cops do this bullshit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYFCaQ6SdAQ

Boof is so fucking stupid.

Without question

booth i watched the vice video when it came out, where are you finding this 6k-20k figure? ive been trying to find out how many attended since it started and i've only seen the 500 number. the night before with tiki torches was only 100 people, your telling me 20k showed up the next day?

also are you seriously asking who is being mislabled as a nazi? i'm the one whose misinformed? lol. where do i start. milo, gavin mcinnes, anne coulter, jordan peterson, bret weinstein

literally anyone who disagrees with anything the left perpetuates, whether they are on the right, or they are actual progressives who just disagree with the faggotry

but basically the disconnect here is you are very very left, and im a right leaning libertariatard. you are going to take anything that fits your narrative as gospel, and im going to pretend to be centrist while espousing alot of the rights viewpoints

so yo

let me ask you this.

do you agree that the nazis/white supremacists/white nationalists/kektards have the right as american citizens to receive permits to lawfully assemble and exercise their first amendment right?

because i do. you don't have to agree with their message, but they are allowed to say it. thats america.

just like the counterprotests, are allowed to protest it.

the problem is you have to do it peacefully.

can you say with a clean conscious that antifa/blm/and the left in general have protested peacefully in any of these instances? can you say that they respect the first amendment? cmonson

Not it's not...not an open choice. It is a lifestyle influenced almost entirely by mental illness. Point blank fucking period. The fact people on this site are arguing something that scientist have already established is bloody ridiculous.

Google motherfuckers.

No, the bloded isn't true Uh-Oh. When Free Speech is used to push a narrative of bigotry and to incite violence it no longer becomes free speech, pure and simple. It becomes hate speech,
You are granted the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness so long as it does not interfere with others just right to the same. You right to "free speech" extends only as far as my own right to life and liberty.

When your speech and demonstrations violate that, you LOSE the right to them.

you are emphatically incorrect sir

Just to elaborate and save you time googling "is hate speech protected by the first amendment"

It is only illegal when directed personally at a person or persons basically.

Which is why a judge can rule and allow them a permit. You are allowed to express any opinion you want in america

Now if a nazi was yelling directly at you, and threatening you personally, that is illegal.

Antifa doesnt understand this.

You dont have to agree with a law for it to be lawful.

Incitement is a thing with plenty of case law precedent Counselor Google, JD.

Did you go to law school diode?

No, IANAL.

Had to take a bunch of pre-law to satisfy credit requirements of double major (history and political science). Given the two, I have a lot of background on this subject, but feel free to disqualify me as one of those evil librul coastal elites if you want.

Oh don't worry I'd never consider you a liberal elite lol

You understand how wrong you are on this right?

No.

Simply look into it.

If anyone is reading this series of posts, just fucking look into it.

I cant express how explicitly wrong pay and diode are.

I can link to government rulings and all that when i get off work. From nazis marching with swastikas through jewish villages to racist band names being upheld etc.

All of it is explicitly protected by the first amendment, and defended time and time again in court.

But dont take my word for it. Take diodes, i mean sure hes a burgeoning jiu jitsu expert and constitutional law professional and all. Im just a dirtbag with google

It's called incitement to lawlessness and incitement to riot Uh-Oh. Should we show the video of a woman being murdered again, so you understand crimes were committed...that a murder was committed? In all honesty, the fact that cops were not out in tanks and head to toe assault gear whereas unarmed blacks and natives get burned down no question. Get tased, gassed and beaten. No question.

That should tell you all need to know about racism in this country Uh-Oh.
You are arguing that groups which identify themselves as "neonazi" and "white nationalist" are NOT Nazi's or white nationalists. Should tell you everything you need to know about yourself on the issue. GTFOutta here bro.

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