DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

MOST INTENSE BATTLE TBH


HOLY SHIT

im saying THOUGH

now im just waiting on the rest of the season to leak

if hbo is smart, nothing GoT related is in anyway connected to the internet lol.

NOW

how does tyrion talk jamie out of getting MURKED

they're obviously gonna fish them out. its just like tyrion going under with the stonemen in old valyria. they'll pull jamie out and take him prisoner. the problem is, HE'S THE FUCKING KINGSLAYER. aka uhhh i dunno, the dude who killed her pops and caused all of her lifes TROUBLES

granted it was over either way with rhaegar being cut down by baratheon and tywin turncoating, but he still used the blade. and he was ready to ride her down and die in the attempt

i mean best case scenario he kills her and gets eaten by a dragon. i guess he was going for the glory in the kingsguard book.

but word

HYPE

now the lannisters will have to lift the siege on casterly rock freeing up the unsullied to return, and we can have the entirety of the targaryen forces lay siege to kings landing.

im sure there will be plenty of others flocking to her cause now, whatever is left of dorne, and highgarden, and all the minor houses under them, the entirety of the stormlands, basically everyone BUT the north vs. WHAT

SOME GOLD CLOACKS and at best 1/3 of the lannister forces

its over.

time for the night king to throw a wrench in everyones plans

Worth the three episode wait. Watching the war scene again rn. Too good.

Peter Dinklage's acting was top notch in that cut away during the battle. Tyrion obviously has second thoughts seeing his brother out there and seeing the Dothraki/Drogon in action. He hates his family, but not to that extent.

Cersei won't go down easy. Everyone was let down by Qyburn's idea. I'm sure they'll think of something to put up a good fight. But yeah, its over.

Tormund/wildings vs. Night King and his army within the next two episodes. Too hype. Everything from here on out will be to the nth degree, no going back to set up episodes after that.

word, qyburns plan can still work THO

they only had 1 scorpion, if they lay siege to the red keep, and have one on every tower?

they might have to go old school and just starve cersei out if she doesn't want to lose a dragon or two. plus she'll probably get persuaded to not just burn the place to the ground

the show doesn't touch on it but thats what went down at harrenhall. some old targaryen had beef with old harren or whatever and harrenhall was the greatest fortress/castle known to westeros. so the targaryen just fucking melted the shit out of it with dragon fire and murked everyone. which is why its "haunted" and spooky and no one fucks with it. where arya and tywin were way back.

but yea it will be interesting

with there being 3 episodes left this season i wouldn't be surprised if next week is a setup.

also im dumb and have this theory i never even looked into that the white walkers always show up in the second to last episode of the season because thats when hardhome happened lmao. the very last episode im thinking is the realm coming to their senses and teaming up, whoever is left to face them.

but next week being a setup would still be SOMETHING happening for all of that to happen

WHO KNOWS

Hardhome actually happened during episode 8.

my theory is blown to smithereens right out of the gate

i also just used the word smithereens

does the royal bank have an army? I'm sure they don't but they have to have armies that owe them money or something right? They made it a point to say that Jamie got them the gold they owed before Dany's army murked shit.

That's true. But even the set ups will have more weight and momentum going forward. A lot of this season and has been reunions and meetings. Had to be done but a little slow. Enjoyable but not what people want going into the home stretch.

I think Harrenhal's destruction was mentioned in passing when Arya was there. Or when Littlefinger was talking to someone. But yeah if it was it was just a one off line or two.

And word to your point about the ballistas. Drogon is the biggest/strongest of the three and a non-headshot put a hurt on him. Rhaegal will go into God-mode when his namesake's son is flying him nahmean.

Yeah, typically the second to last episode is the big set piece or huge plot development.

1- Baelor/Ned beheading
2- Blackwater
3- Rains of Castemere/Red Wedding
4- Watchers on the Wall
5- Both episodes 8 and 9 could be considered the pinnacle episode. Hardhome then Dance of Dragons
6- Battle of the Bastards. But then Winds of Winter topped it.

I agree that Eastwatch is probably the penultimate episode. Thing is, once the undead army actually breaks into Westeros proper, everything's chaos. I imagine it'll be like last season. Big battle (BotB/Eastwatch) then a typical finale type episode except its just as heavy and emphatic as the big set piece episode preceding it (WoW). It probably goes Eastwatch then a big setup episode with the big development being Jon and Dany learning about their link.

Plus Bran has to tell Jon about his parentage. And do some more weird sociopathic newBran shit.

And Littlefinger has to get got or fuck everyones shit up.

And Arya has to murder someone.

Agreed on all fronts

Also poet word, i forgot about that. In the jamie/bronn scene just prior to the battle they said the gold made it to kings landing

So the debt is paid and all dany was burning was grain and shit in those wagons

So that frees the iron bank to lend more money, which frees cersei to purchase the golden company and other sellswords from the east

So she can still put up a fighting chance, but how long will it take for them to get there and etc

also I guess it's pretty obvious that Jon bends the knee to Danni when he proposes to her huh?

So that was great.

Also gross AT dani/Jon though I know Targaeryans have no problem with that incest

That better not happen or I will be pissed. And they better not be together at the end and live happily ever after or I will feel cheated. One of them better die and it better be her. She's such a shit character.

"if you think this is going to have a happy ending, then you're wrong" - ramsay bolton

yo... uh-oh's theory on bran being the night's king fucked me up.

lol that ain't his, that's been floated ever since bran warged.

also the alternative that bran has always been the 3 eyed raven and this is just one of infinite iterations of his existence

nah the big deal is all the grain and food means kings landing cant survive a siege in winter now

i should've clarified that i first read it here. never seen it anyhwere else.

I mean literally from a strategy point she helped Cersei out big time.

She not only used a dragon but used the dothraki. If Cersei was any kind of politician she would capitalize on this big time. She brought rapist, slave capturing foreigners to take over Kings Landing. She burned all of our food so we all will starve this winter. We need to stand up to her. Literally the exact thing everyone advised her not to do.

agreed on the grain front but you don't BURN IT, you just take it

she's gonna need it too. an army marches on its stomach and all that old adage nonsense

it aint like there is crazy foodstores on dragonstone, and the tyrells had the most valuable farmland in the realm so it was literally enough to keep the continent going through most winters

that grain was needed everywhere

but it is a tv show they must take liberties for explosions

im not SOLD on bran being the night king i just regurgitated it but it could make some sort of sense

as well as all the iterations or whatever

did anyone stop to think that HE was warged? meaning the bloodraven aka the old three eyed raven took over him. and he was taken over before him. etc etc. i don't remember if its in the show but wargs can take over humans too. so instead of bran going back in time to influence every event, it was the "three eyed raven" doing it, because he never died.

is that a theory? BECAUSE I JUST THOUGHT OF IT. there was a warg, from the time of the first men who has been living in caves and shit taking over people since day 1, when one vessel is about to its end he'd lead others in and take them over. the last before bran, being brynden rivers aka the bloodraven. so when the others came, he warged INTO BRAN and stayed. bran died in that cave because he was taken over by another entity

Yeah that's the basis of the infinite bran/infinite 3er theory. Hence why he keeps telling people he isn't Bran and Meera tells him Bran died in that cave

word i must've never understood the theory then, i thought people were saying BRAN was doing it. like BRAN went back in time and visited the mad king and whispered the madness to him, bran went back and did the brandon the builder shit, etc. etc.

but it makes much more sense that there is an ancient warg who has evaded death through the millennia by just taking over a new person every hundred or so years. so that same ancient "spirit" for lack of a better word couldve done everything, and bran is just his new vessel

i like that MUCH more than bran just somehow gaining knowledge from the trees or whatever

because it brings a new player into the game entirely

It's basically GOTs deus ex machina

If I'm not mistaken it sure as shit looked to me like she burned every single one of the grain wagons in that episode. As a matter of fact she specifically targeted them.

word it was stupid and didn't make sense

BUT YO

i can't find my theory anywhere. everything is linking bran to it.

like bran warged into brynden rivers, making him the the 3ER, and the 3ER then trains bran, so bran trains himself. basically everything im finding keeps making BRAN the main warg

what i'm saying is the ORIGINAL WARG, unrelated to BOTH OF THEM, the true LAST OF THE GREENSEERS, who was around with the children of the forest and the first men, some unnamed character to this point, is actually the 3ER. HE made brynden rivers come to the cave, he took over him. he made bran come to the cave when bryndens husk was failing and took over BRAN.

it could even be an ancient child of the forest, because the whole tree connection

the weirwoods were where the SOULS of the children of the forest reside when they died. when the first men came to westeros, they were intent on chopping these trees down, which led them to war, because they were literally killing their ancestors. (in the show the white walkers were created by the children to help fight man, in the books they were already there/there is no talk of their creation/backstory)

so it might even be the weirwoods themselves

the 3ER could be the hive knowledge of all the children of the forest taking control of humans since they are the most intelligent life available

ALSO

since the show made the children create the white walkers, they could LITERALLY BE THE CLEANUP CREW

every invasion of man that hit westeros, the first men, and later the ANDALS, all brought their own gods, and each chopped down weirwoods

now DAENYRYS comes with FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS and dothraki savages. the white walkers could be the trees last hope of wiping out humans who will inevitably wipe them out

but that doesn't make sense because actual children of the forest were fighting the white walkers but i guess they could just be uncontrollable and kill anything other than trees lol

but YO

i still think its an ancient warg, unrelated to bran at all. maybe even a child of the forest, all the knowledge they gain from the trees would make more sense then because the ancestors in the trees seen everything and can pass it along, its not like bran is going back in time himself and witnessing sansas wedding, and every other thing, otherwise he would constantly be in a trance reliving all of those moments. meanwhile if he is actually a child of the forest, just using brans body as a shell, the trees could be feeding him memories or some shit

either way i spend too much time thinking about this horse shit. im gonna go jerk off

They made a point of saying the grain line was very long. I doubt that was all the grain/food.

Even so, its borderline irrelevant. Getting stuck in the details isnt really the point. With an abbreviated season they cant give time to every little nuance of the war. We can just assume that that wasnt all of the grain and that her army is fine vis a vis supplies/food. Thats not the point of the narrative.

So Jaime is alive. They wouldnt go through the trouble of showing him being saved from Drogon just to kill him. Prisoner of war now? Saved by Bronn and back to the Red Keep to tell Cersei that its time to fuck off and run cuz dragons? Dunno.

I hope the deeper Bran theories are untrue tbh. Just seems kind of lazy. Or hack writing.

i guess episode 5's outline leaked. if any of you want to help me ruin my week halp me find plz

all i know is what the episode will be titled.

DON'T HIGHLIGHT AND READ BELOW THIS IF A SIMPLE TITLE WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE

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EASTWATCH

standing by my theory of the white death in the second to last episode

hopefully india will slip up and LEAK IT ASAP

i need to see the hound kill 37 wights

also gendrys hammer is gay

have a normal warhammer ya goof

also why am i expected to believe he's a competent fighter with a hammer when he's done nothing in his life

also he's too small, shitty casting

he shouldve at least been on 29059325 cycles of whatever cyborg takes. i blame the initial robert baratheon casting. dudes supposed to be a 6'6'' giant swinging a warhammer only the mountain could wield other than him

now we got his 5'6 son gendry with his painted on sparta 300 forearm muscles like we can't see he weighs 160 pounds with a goofy rounded plastic clown child warhammer

FUCK OFF

still hype tho

word, im assuming its from the books though, but who knows.

it just makes the whole rebellion thing weird. but robert was a drunkard, and maybe he was just butthurt and made up the whole kidnapping thing. compounded with the mad king burning ned's brother and father that probably blinded old honorable neds logic so he teamed up so the targaryans wouldn't steal another stark from him

either way word

im enjoying the westerosi time machine though. im just thinking of how much they couldve done from day 1 if they moved the story this fast before

but then i remember how gigantic the source material is and it was probably needed to be so slow action wise, just to set the world into the viewers minds as much as possible, so now they can take advantage and just slam us with everything

im just hoping sam can find something in the books they stole other than, oh wait it says dragonglass can kill them! no shit fucko.

but word he probably finds some knowledge on how to make valyrian steel.

involving regular steel+dragonglass forged in dragonfire. gendry of course will make enough swords for whatever main characters are left by the end. if he doesn't get killed north of the wall. which i can only hope for

thought it was tight that Davos mentioned to gendry "i thought you'd still be rowing" lol.

This is basically turning into a JRPG final cast against the Night King

Oh also calling it now either:

Cersei not actually pregnant and is using it to keep Jaime in line/loyal

Or

The valonquar that kills her is this bb and it's a boy

Oh and also how stupid is Arya amirite

IMAGINE IF LITTLEFINGER HAS BEEN A FACELESS DUDE THIS WHOLE TIME AND THIS IS HER PUNISHMENT OMGGGG

jon going beyond the wall with JORRAH THA BEAST that muh fucker done lived through EVERYTHING. we all knew he was gonna get cured but then WHAM let's go over the wall. LMFAO like, take a break jorrah.

also... cersei totally has the upper hand on everyone. i just wish that bitch would get EATEN by them dragons.

we all know there has to be a zombie-mountain zombie-hound thing go down tho soon.

so im thinking, like no one believing jon about the dead right, and he needs to convince them

its gonna be the same with his parentage

so he's gonna have to prove it by riding a dragon. unless the show doesn't plan on having more than one dragonrider

in which case his parentage won't even matter, because he's obviously gonna marry dany, and unite the north and south, so he'll basically be king anyways. unless he pulls some cuck shit like whoever married the queen of england like nah im just the queens beard dawg she runs shit

You seem to forget that all men must die.

it was really frustrating since it was the most obvious and laziest fan theory heading into this season

Was really hoping jon wouldn't bend the knee and dany would get pizt and kill him by dragonfire only for Jon to arise as azor ahai

This whole lets be friends shit is lame indeed lol

to be fair, as jon put it "they're all breathing" and that's legit a good enough reason to be on the same side against the undead