Both had bangers. Both over rated. Both pawns. Biggie was better with flow and rhyming. Package was more hollywood.

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Wiggas unite.

Dope fiends diner>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ars5Ji58Imo

it's clear what part of Tupac Veritas is most concerned with…

Auto correct fail lolz.

i think a lot of biggie's songs are great, and Some of pacs songs are great.
They we're both good artists (duh).
I can't say I didn't try.
I purposefully seek out Big songs to listen to. Not the case with Pac..although I have heard songs of his where I'm like, damn, that's awesome.

Pac is almost too polished/predictable in some songs. He raps with better passion/emotion, as people say, but he does not consistently employ the same subtle rapping techniques which made Big famous. Hard to explain. Maybe certain can.

As far as rapping is concerned, I think "bad verses" or "trite lines" (for both) are actually a good litmus test.. I hear a trite verse or a "reached line" from Pac, and I want to go to the next song.. I hear a trite verse or a reached line from Big, and I'm like, shit, he raps well; that sounded awesome.

for some reason i consider the simple: "jiu jitsu when i hitchu then i splitchu" a revolutionary line.

& @Certain, not allll of Big's songs were good... I mean there's some tracks where he goes on and on about him and his crew shitting on women's chests and busting nuts.

All this said, I don't think Hit'em Up will ever get stale. Lol great diss s0ng

i think a lot of biggie's songs are great, and Some of pacs songs are great.
They we're both good artists (duh).
I can't say I didn't try.
I purposefully seek out Big songs to listen to. Not the case with Pac..although I have heard songs of his where I'm like, damn, that's awesome.

Pac is almost too polished/predictable in some songs. He raps with better passion/emotion, as people say, but he does not consistently employ the same subtle rapping techniques which made Big famous. Hard to explain. Maybe certain can.

As far as rapping is concerned, I think "bad verses" or "trite lines" (for both) are actually a good litmus test.. I hear a trite verse or a "reached line" from Pac, and I want to go to the next song.. I hear a trite verse or a reached line from Big, and I'm like, shit, he raps well; that sounded awesome.

for some reason i consider the simple: "jiu jitsu when i hitchu then i splitchu" a revolutionary line.

& @Certain, not allll of Big's songs were good... I mean there's some tracks where he goes on and on about him and his crew shitting on women's chests and busting nuts.

All this said, I don't think Hit'em Up will ever get stale. Lol great diss s0ng

I fuck w/ biggie more personally

Flow more versatile

Pac more a poet

Biggie more a sorcerer w/ words

Flow monumental

This is West coast vs. East coast in action.

This is passion vs. Technicality

This is why you guys dont like e40 vs. Why i think off brand new york rappers are boring.

Pac died for this shit bro. He knew he was going way too hard thats how he predicted his death.

Big a better lyricist. So fucking what if you ask me.

Maybe you missed the news about Notorious B.I.G., but ...

What do you mean?

That he is living on the moon with Elvis and Kurt Cobain?

In the wake of pacs death, big was killed.. going going back back to cali cali.

I made it sound like it wasn't close at all... not the case.. both legends for good reason.. guess it does come down to personal taste..

Gotta push back on your closing sentence though..
Are you indirectly saying that Pac's epic or fearless lifestyle made him a better rapper?... methinks I could ask the same so f-ing what..
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And, even tho I "choose biggie" if I have to do a < >, here's a track that is good hip hop:

Posting it becuz it's like.. "unpolished"... I.m.o. the coooolest version by far; I don't even listen to the other versions.
@all(give the Whole song a chance if you haven't heard before)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozt3QQVRA7g

I guess that's a link-fail. w/e. it's the pac & boot camp clik song. trust me no rick rolls or viruses.

And yes I'm aware that this biggie-pac thread has now devolved into a biggie-pac thread with links.. lmao

Seriously tho @Wise Wiggles that track grows on you as it goes on. first time i heard it. starts off like, um wth...then, by the end i'm thinking "thats quite original".. Different sound for him as well, as well as some unorthodox but cool schemes..

Always been more of a biggie fan personally

Quality > quantity

He was better technically, but by an insignificant amount.

You just wanted to see the world burn with this one.

I dont think biggie was a great lyricist personally. Not saying pac is either but it aint like big was leaps and bounds above him

Tbh I don't get why he's considered the greatest.

Dude was a beast but the greatest?

Lyrically?

I'd put rakim krs1 over biggie

Easily as far as bars/lyricism

Biggie was better at making dope songs tho. And pac was better than him. Biggies best songs other than going back to cali were plagiarized pretty puffy beats like juicy

Not that pacs shit was better produced, he was just better at making alot of dope shit.

KRS-One's style was outdated by the time his second album dropped.

edit: cant remember the song. will be back

well that's the stupidest fucking thing i've read today.

So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

lol @ pac did 10 times better than biggie

LOL

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

DMX is a better storyteller than pac

there. i said it. it's been said.

Srsly?

You talking out yo ass son dmx lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFmvipF3Mbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A949JshqvbI

Lol joe Budden story better than that

DMX was pretty epic.

Dmx is an east coast pac with a shittier catalog and shittier beats

SWIZZY

that said i fuck with dmx

Pac>

And then there was x low key got me into wtiting.

1. I never said Biggie was the greatest. And I never would.

2. Rakim is the reason KRS-One's style was outdated. Rakim was lyricism distilled to its bare bones. He struggled when he tried to be more than that, specifically as an angry, overtly violent, weirdly military-based mess of internal rhymes on "Casualties of War" and some other songs on Don't Sweat the Technique.

3. Passion and heart literally are not lyricism.

4. 2Pac's stories were basic and driven entirely by emotion. Biggie told stories better than 2Pac, even if 2Pac might have told better stories. And 2Pac did not tell better stories than Biggie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lb0HImG_MU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df0rha_Opw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePH5YYgQNk

I think Rakim was better than all of them tbh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWUs0KtB-I

This better though

Big l was better than both tho

lol no

not ever

lyrically, yes, big L repped ny the hardest in that era

Big L died before he could get good beats consistently. It's a fucking shame.

"Brenda's Got a Baby" is fine. It's not even close to as complex or interesting or emotional as, say, Nas' "Undying Love" or Jay Z's "Meet the Parents." But it's fine. 2Pac's best storytelling track is "I Ain't Mad At Cha."

Big l got even less material then biggie tho lol

I mean he was hot....but cmon

Are we now to the stage of the thread where we just make it known that we know of other greats not in discussion?

Vanilla ice tho

AYO BIG PUN >>>>>>> YOU HEAR THAT SHIT ABOUT THE MIDDLEMEN OF GIGGLY JIZZILY?! PUN THE GOAT IN AND OUT OF LITTLE ITALY.