so you guys are on the flag thing now?

well im home. im gonna eat and post a long post making you all look dumb without the help of google on both religion and the confederate flag

Hi...



Bye...

All bolded parts are HIGHLY questionable, if not flat out wrong. Putting truth before things doesn't make them truth.

Religions... races... nations... political parties...

These are all tools used to divide us and distract us from the truth

you all seem so certain that you are right, but speak with thoughts that prove otherwise. The fact that none of you even agree about what you disagree about with me speaks volumes.


what has been gained from this thread is 4fold

1. Destro is mad at God due to childhood stepdad issues. which makes perfect sense.

2. Split 8 talks at lenght as an expert when in fact he is not even yet an adult

3. Batty pwns split 8

4. Snoop cosigns the nazi regime, which also makes sense.

so lets talk religion you monkeys

at the root of everything, we are all the same thing. by we, i mean LIFE. living breathing organisms. if there is a loud BOOM beside you, you look over jolted, like WTF. so does everything else. whether its a MUSKRAT or an alligator or billy goat or ANY OTHER BEAST OF THE FIELD.

we, as humans place ourselves above the beasts of the field, because with our ability to communicate, and our abilities to reason and make decisions that we UNDERSTAND we're like well we're the shit obviously.

but we are filthy fucking animals with stinky shitty buttholes and shitty beast organs that fail eventually no matter how strict your diet, or how great your lifestyle.

now religion in my opinion formed as ways for tribes and familys to give themselves a code to live by, and the SAFETY of knowing that if another person is labeled as part of that religion, you don't have to worry about them.

if you follow PADITUHNAER for instance, some make believe god, and your religious tenants are to not harm others, then you know anyone you encounter who follows that will not harm you, ALLEGEDLY.

IN OUR BASE ANIMALISTIC instincts, and entire state of mind really, everything we do is an act of SELF PRESERVATION. in the sense that every trigger in your brain sets off that you should be careful, you shouldnt juggle a rattle snake, shit like that.

so when a human encounters another human, and you don't KNOW THAT HUMAN. your very first thought is defensive. now, granted we live in a society where the majority are religious, and on top of that we have a system of LAW AND ORDER, that is drilled into us, we live in giant population centers and all that, so seeing someone you don't know happens countless times a day for the majority of the population, but you have to put yourself in the mindset of an early human, who sees no one but their immediate family/tribe for the most part.

any beast, or human alike encountered, is A THREAT FIRST AND FOREMOST.

as humans our base desires of self preservation, not only ENTAIL PROTECTING OURSELVES, and DEFENDING your PEOPLE, but also PROCREATION, and passing on your genetics, and expanding and HELPING your people. children are the shit. you know how easy it is for a grown man to injure himself? do you have any idea what a broken ankle means to a 25 year old ADULT MALE with no hospitals in sight? not even the IDEA of a hospital? meanwhile kids can fall off a fucking cliff, cry and be like sup niggas i'm still growing and i'm indestructible sure i'll help carry shit across this river.

so not only does a child PRESERVE YOUR GENES, but they BOLSTER YOUR NUMBER, AND STRENGTHEN YOUR FAMILY UNIT/TRIBE.

so you encounter a human you don't know. its IMMEDIATELY ON NIGGA. THIS DUDE HAS TO DIE. HE IS WHERE MY FAMILY EATS, SLEEPS, AND LIVES IN PEACE. HE'S COME TO FUCK MY WOMEN, AND EAT MY CAMELS HAUNCHES. i DONT KNOW THIS DUDE.

but then hey, you have RELIGION. and with religion comes the JUDGEMENT OF THE GODS. you have basic rules, do not fuck your neighbors woman. do not kill them. do not steal from them. do not make fun of a bald man or you will get mauled by 2 great she-bears.

if i live by this code, and i DONT KNOW YOU, but i see you ALSO live by this code, i can let some of my PRIMAL guards down around you, knowing that you also fear the damnation of the gods, if you dare do any of these things that HARM ME AND MINE. and you as a person who don't know me, can take these same comforts.

that in essence is what religion is. we all know that at a base level that its just "moral" rules that keep everything from desolving to anarchy, but you need to know that it is purely for self preservation and shit. not some make believe greater good.

most ancient cultures had respect for other cultures' gods. because they were all fucking idiots.

now we have law and order, and SOCIETY as a whole to keep other humans in check. you don't kill your neighbor and kidnap his wife because you fear being judged by st. peter, but because you don't want to be executed by the state, and or spend your life behind bars stripped of freedom.

you don't need a god to fill in the mysteries of the universe when you can turn to SCIENTIFIC FACTS. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE RELIGIOUS, WHO CLING TO GOD WITHIN THE GAPS OF THE KNOWN SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE TIME, AND THATS FINE.

but anyone using religion as a means to HARM OTHER IS AT FAULT. its my understanding that no religion advocates violence beyond an eye for an eye type circumstance. if islam or some other religion advocates violence towards other religions, it is merely out of SELF PRESERVATION of the people who invented it, because their neighbors could be a threat to them. now im pretty positive it isn't in islam, other than like "yo kill sorcerors and mages" which are obvious threats, but like i said earlier i don't wanna google cuz i have a god mind already.

so essentially, no religion advocates violence towards others not in SELF DEFENSE/PRESERVATION OF SELF.

Lol some racist mfers itt

I skimmed n lold at some segments

Wow oh wowee

I fkn died at black billionaire with 20k black employees

That analogy is retarded amongst other things but keep it up

This some revelatory shit

Hardwired bigotry manifesto

BTW I voted for Obamerr coz he's blk. Fuck u idc

Lmao. It was my first time voting

Just turned 18. Young. Dumb. Caught up in the campaign. Thought it would do something great for future generations. But I now know it doesn't matter who's in office. Once u hit that lvl being genuine goes out the window. Literally no candidate sticks to their talking points presented in their csmpaigns. It's all fucking corrupt n there's no honor. I cannot relate



I regret it. Just as yall should regret voting bush in offic4

now the confederate flag as i know it

ISN'T THE FLAG OF THE SOUTH YOU FUCKING IMBOCILES, IT WAS A BATTLE STANDARD. its a flag SOME confederates used in battle. some confederate states flew their own flags as well.

it by NO MEANS REPRESENTS WHITE SUPREMACY

that came MUCH LATER. the ku klux klan adopted it, and the white skinheads and everyone else, so now it represents that to alot of people. because you know we have them on this magical thing called video flying it.

but it was never meant to resemble white supremacy, as much as just differentiate troops on a battlefield.

did the south fight for slavery? YES, ABSOLUTELY, but they weren't fighting for it because whites are superior, as much as WTF MAN you YANKEES that live in cities and work in shitty industrial factories are trying to tell me a rich white dude with a plantation that i have to lose my work force? or pay them? its not enough that i house and feed them and clothe them, but i have to cut profits i'm accustomed to by like 3/4 at the least? eat a dick, i'm seceding, you can keep your states.

it is ABSOLUTELY TREASONOUS. its a REBELLION. there is no higher treason then TO ACTIVELY MAKE WAR AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, but with that said, i'm pretty sure the north fired first.

either way tho.

the main point is the flag also CAN represent the OPPOSITION of an OVER REACHING GOVERNMENT.

whether you agree with what people in the south stood for, the whole slavery thing, or not is irrelevant honestly.

if the government just made it law that 98 percent of all your earnings is now the governments, WOULD YOU NOT REBEL? you would be commiting treason absolutely. but the victors write the history.

but word the confederate flag has come to represent white supremacy amongst alot of americans due to the KKK and white supremacist organisations adopting it, but its only meant that since the 1900s

in its inception it was nothing more than a battle flag, not even flown by the entire confederacy.

/thread

I forgot to add in the part about them firing all of the mixed race maintenance workers.

But yo, forreal if you don't understand that analogy, you're not going to catch this one.

You hope that somebody voter for Bush so it'll create an even fail with you voting for Obama?

You gonna have to wallow in that shit bro, trust I ain't never voted for Bush, fuck that.

Now what?

It's good I'm reading it all

I just saw that n scrolled back down for a dbl take

U two on sum skip Bayless first take shit

Nah. I'm just saying. It's easy to get caught up in the moment

Ur not blj so u don't understand

We all mostly regret electing that puppet. He had a really strong but deceitful campaign

Never seen it b4.

I'm 18 at the time. Change change was drummed into my mind

Not race relatons but his approach to the presidency itself. He's prolly one of the most immoral myers ever elected. He's slick as fuck man. Go
Es to Charleston n channels his inner mlk. Like that wasn't advised lol. I dislike Obama but I think he's just a result of the system. The ultimate politician.

I've seen him weasel out of so many questions n do so magnificently. U forget way the questionwas in the 1st place

The killer was that he never stuck to his campaign .

It was all sensationalism. That pulled the wool from over my eyes

We all learn sumhow

Yo, quit being so vague, explain yoself.

Who?

I'm straight educating fools up in here, lemme know. Really real talk.

was it when he flip flopped on gay marriage?

was it when his autobiography stated that if "an evil wind blew against islam that he would stand for them?"

was it when his government was not transparant?

Let me read these posts

Veritas, as usual, your end result is as laughable as your initial premise. Even with your office buddy going to bat for you calling out people for stating opinions over facts and then asserting that this country was founded by Christians has done nothing to help your case. You are wrong. fact.
I shared a fact that I've had close experience with people who are delusional, which is why I told the story about my stepfather. You, as usual, latched onto that like it was somehow evidence of why I hate the church, which, even if it were true, does nothing to add weight to your original assertion, that the claim that religion has caused more deaths than anything else is false.
Now, those that share your opinion in this thread are the one guy who you admittedly know irl, and no one else. And you think this somehow proves your assertion? I don't doubt you do, because as evidence, it's equally laughable as the evidence you have that there's a sky father up there who decided that your head shining like a cue ball, was a necessity for the cosmos to function.

yup

I thought he would be brave

Turns out he really doesn't endorse shot he says. So that is moot from the beg.

Just give me authenticity. I'll follow you like a lemming.

Even if I don't agree on ur stances

Like Chris Rock says

I got sum shot im.liberal about n sum shot I'm conservative about

Why the duck isn't there more bipartisan reasoning

Idgi. The answer is not something I want to hear. It all goes back to integritu

some of you are very shrewd, you perceive the surface clearly...
but with a strong focus on that you aren't able to see behind it

Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight @Veritas the invincible

This nigga loominati

Be nice to me Jun u know I'm genuine

The kill is that @Dr Dog and Destroyer keep talking about tolerance and equality but only as long as it fits your agenda.

You acting like a flag is going to rape your family or something, like a flag is going to do a drive by or something. You sound straight retarded to say that all people with confederate flags are racists, drop some statistics on the shit pls bros.

Y'all can't tho.

Some people grew up on sports teams with the rebel flag, all they relate it to is Football or the General Lee orange car. But yo, yall quick to not tolerate any of that shit.

Yo, I ain't got no love for that flag at all, all I do is tolerate some of the people who like it for non racist reasons and thee niggas mad at me just for tolerating folks.

Same with religion, I ain't quoted no bible verses nor have I told nare-a-nigga to go get saved up in here, but yall stay mad that I tolerate people's religion lol.

I like how these dudes stay skipping the real questions, you see either of them touching my question on gay marriage? Hell naw tbh. Cause that's that ether, step up and I shall advise.

the swastika was originally an American Indian symbol too
it's not used that way now though, is it?
it doesn't matter that some people think it stands for heritage or fucking whatever
it was literally created to symbolize the white man being above the black man
if you don't believe this, you aren't reading the fucking history

I live in ms n I totally sympathize with the pPl who see the Confederate flag as a symbol of southern pride

I know ppl who have it draped outside their business n they genuinely treat me like family

Like genuine

U can't fake genuine love man

Down here there are ppl who yes...use it as a reinforcement of hate but the vast majority are not like that

It's the ignorant duck it up for ppl like batty

N batty guess wat..we feel the same way when u talk about the shot my fellow brethren do

I can't account for ignorance

I'm me. Yk ow? Individual

What the hell happened here

Supreme Court did good 2 weeks back

Happy with the Obama presidency in the sense that they'll almost always be the same but the 15% that was different was on point

Religious fanaticism is dangerous

Someone flame me to pieces so I feel like I didn't miss anything

So I guess all Ole miss plz are racist coz they mascot is a rebel

Nope

Sure there's a few dumb college kids taking advantage of the history?

But there's good ppl everywhere

Perspective should be relative to the individual

So it's not chilling to u that it took this tragedy to conjure a reason to have it removed?

It feels like. I on wats the word I'm looking fo

Iono fuck itr

Perspective

One of my best friends has a rebel flag draped in his bedroom

I love that guy n I understand him

The first day I walked in his room n saw that he was visibly agitated /worried how I wud react

I act like I didn't see it

He brought it up eventually. .n I shush ed him like brother u don't have to explain uraelf. I said had thought u were a bigot we wouldn't be talk in 1st place

He had a sigh of relief n said I really appreciate it

Noone seems to understand

Sry typos my phone glitching

Muff, you are so fucking dumb, you almost deserve to be discriminated against

it was literally created to be a battle standard/flag used by an army, not even the entire confederate army.

what its become associated with now is the racism/white supremacy shit. it wasn't created to symbolize that tho.

The levels of ignorance in this thread are disgusting.

The flag was based on the saltire, a common flag symbol sometimes called the Southern cross. As historian John Coski writes in The Confederate Battle Flag: America's Most Embattled Emblem, Southerners weren't shy about enlisting the design in the cause of white supremacy. In 1863, the editor of the Southern Literary Messenger wrote that the flag's Southern cross pointed to "the destiny of the Southern master and his African slave" — the Confederacy's hoped-for expansion of slavery into Latin America.
The Confederacy itself was founded to preserve slavery and promote white supremacy (see, for example, Mississippi's declaration of secession: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world," or the speech from the Confederacy's vice president that declared the Confederacy's cornerstone "rests upon the great truth that the Negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition").

That's because you actually live in MS and know what's really up, that's what some of these dudes don't get coz they don't know, all they know is they listen to hip hop and they gotta act urban and smoke weed and pose in hats and buy shoes. Ppl that are racist get spotted quick in the south and it ain't coz they got a flag, it coz how they feel and how they treat ppl.

Like I said tho, aint no flag about to physically harm anybody, ppl just following the agenda.

Jude...cmon now.

We are not going to simply gloss over the facts. The facts that religion has not even come close to killing as many people in all of its years combined as we humans have for our own non god reasons in the last 100 years alone. Real talk. Facts. Stats.


We are also not going to gloss over the fact that whether you want to admit it or not you are angry at God bc you associate his being found with your step dad being lost. It is ok. It makes sense. Just own it so we can move on to the next level.

This is a safe place. You are safe.

Read my edit batty

I almost made that nigga she'd a tear

Beautiful stuff

The shit didn't happen when I was 12 you dumb fucking moron. I was an adult, fully able to recognize hypocrisy at that time. it's the thickheadedness that reminds me of that when dealing with you. That is all. I'm not "mad" at God because I don't believe in a god. why would I feel anger towards something I do not believe in?

As for the "facts" we are not glossing over
really? I saw hush ask for stats about 8 pages back and heard crickets...

Your posts Hella jaded

I speak from the heart

That flag symbolism shot u posted was wrongwroioongwroooong

What if I told u there are blk ppl in academia who protest the flag being taken down

They shtoopid too
don't take my presentation for ignorance I can tell off top that u don't speak from experience

I'd tell you that there were black people who owned slaves too

No they hate white supremacists

But protest the flags removal

Confusing to you. But makes sense to me. Considering what I've been through

Ur saying they are essentially sellouts

The same ppl who were visibly angered by the shooting

But when they say the flag thing they were like oh OK now they taking it too far

U are ignorant but far from stupid

Word Muff, I feel u.

True story, me and a black homie of mine used to go to rich white people's houses and steal their rebel flags. I ain't never had no love for that flag at all, but I know some people ain't meaning no harm (dukes of Hazard ftw)

And even some people are just misguided and can change. Daryl Dixon to thread.

Fair?

Flags don't kill people, people kill flags.

I really could give a fuck about the flag whether it hangs or not. it's a fucking flag
racism is a problem. burning all the flags won't fix racism
I don't even know why we are talking about the shit except it's Batty's way of taking focus off of the main point of the thread which has been formidably shit on.

lol