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Boredom 07-25-2013 11:52 PM

they are accurate unless i can get an ext til tomorrow. been way to nice to spend time inside writing, and i'm just about to head out drinking. if u don't want to give the ext i understand.. and i will def feed your verse @Nigma .

Nigma 07-26-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boredom (Post 104192)
they are accurate unless i can get an ext til tomorrow. been way to nice to spend time inside writing, and i'm just about to head out drinking. if u don't want to give the ext i understand.. and i will def feed your verse @Nigma .

@Mike Wrecka @zygote is this acceptable? My only concern would be a potential lackage in votes but I'm fine with it if the powers that be are

Rawn M.D. 07-26-2013 12:23 AM

im not a mod but 36 hr ext are not unheard of...should b possible if competitor approves, but its ultimately up to the mods.

Inno 07-26-2013 12:57 AM

godam you fig

Coup 07-26-2013 12:59 AM

imma gunna vote tomorrow...good verses to read

Rawn M.D. 07-26-2013 01:06 AM

Lol no I'm not fat @Adonis haha

Adonis 07-26-2013 01:10 AM

Lies

Your verse reminded me of Dayday mimicking that fat girl about the hostess cakes (RIP) on Friday after the next

Rawn M.D. 07-26-2013 01:13 AM

Haha nah I usta cook n have had numerous jobs in the hospitality industry

zygote 07-26-2013 01:35 AM

I have some idea for changes to writing deadlines to make it more streamlined (just going to run it by the others). At the moment though, if you wish to accept EXTS then O.K. 100%. Remember, all contest pages will be closed Sunday afternoon (my time zone), which translates into Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time, so consider that closing date/time if you are requesting EXTS. Going to vote on 3 pages now, as won't require competitors to do something without doing it myself.

Certain 07-26-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zygote (Post 104235)
I have some idea for changes to writing deadlines to make it more streamlined (just going to run it by the others). At the moment though, if you wish to accept EXTS then O.K. 100%. Remember, all contest pages will be closed Sunday afternoon (my time zone), which translates into Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time, so consider that closing date/time if you are requesting EXTS. Going to vote on 3 pages now, as won't require competitors to do something without doing it myself.

An idea I will suggest: If your opponent no-shows, you get one point for showing up and one point for voting on three battles.

Certain 07-26-2013 02:32 AM

@Adonis, here's the feedback promised for your verse:

The first 20 lines were individually strong characterization, but at a certain point I felt that you were repeating yourself, from a content perspective. I grasped the character pretty quickly, and while there was some nice wit shown, the content didn't move forward. That wouldn't have been as much of a problem had the ending, the turn, not sort of come out of nowhere. I don't think the dark turnaround really felt earned because it hadn't been properly introduced. So content-wise, the verse fell short for me.

But there was a lot of nice lyricism. A few of the conceptual and metaphorical descriptions worked well. And I did develop a very full sense of who this man is, more than simply a cliche. More concrete details might have helped, but the first person excused that to some degree as people often write about themselves without facing concrete details.

You used the challenge letters well, though I wasn't crazy about finishing the verse the way you did and leaping outside the concept and context of everything else you had written for that single last line. Besides, there are plenty of "W" words.

Your verse was good but showed the signs of someone who certainly can do better.

zygote 07-26-2013 02:32 AM

Yes good idea. You already get 1 point for winning via no-show, but there can be no extra points for voting, 3 is just the required amount. Short votes are fine as well.
Well I was going to post it in the Moderator discussion area but cannot find where that is. So I will post it here instead. Here is the idea for Time Deadlines. Comment if you have some views.

" Everything will be closed each week Sunday afternoon 3pm-4pm East coast Australia time which is Saturday 10-11 pm Pacific Standard Time. It takes about an hour then a new magazine will be uploaded with the new week’s tasks and match-ups. Up until the time of closing you are allowed to upload and vote. However, be considerate to your opponent and don’t upload something right before, when everything is being closed. If you think you’re going to no show that’s fine just say so, if you can’t write until whatever day, that’s fine as well, just say so in your contest page. Extensions etc are meaningless in this format – Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time is when the Tasks are uploaded, and when all the weeks pages are closed. Your time frame for finishing writing and voting is therefore between Saturday 10-11pm PST and the next Saturday 10-11pm PST. "

Basically there will be no split between writing/voting periods (Like verses due Wednesday, voting due Saturday). This is placing some trust into competitors who have signed in to write whenever they can, with each competitor knowing there is that hard deadline of Sat 11pm PST and to upload accordingly. Note, this is only an idea, not a rule change or anything.

Mike Wrecka 07-26-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zygote (Post 104246)
Yes good idea. You already get 1 point for winning via no-show, but there can be no extra points for voting, 3 is just the required amount. Short votes are fine as well.
Well I was going to post it in the Moderator discussion area but cannot find where that is. So I will post it here instead. Here is the idea for Time Deadlines. Comment if you have some views.

" Everything will be closed each week Sunday afternoon 3pm-4pm East coast Australia time which is Saturday 10-11 pm Pacific Standard Time. It takes about an hour then a new magazine will be uploaded with the new week’s tasks and match-ups. Up until the time of closing you are allowed to upload and vote. However, be considerate to your opponent and don’t upload something right before, when everything is being closed. If you think you’re going to no show that’s fine just say so, if you can’t write until whatever day, that’s fine as well, just say so in your contest page. Extensions etc are meaningless in this format – Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time is when the Tasks are uploaded, and when all the weeks pages are closed. Your time frame for finishing writing and voting is therefore between Saturday 10-11pm PST and the next Saturday 10-11pm PST. "

Basically there will be no split between writing/voting periods (Like verses due Wednesday, voting due Saturday). This is placing some trust into competitors who have signed in to write whenever they can, with each competitor knowing there is that hard deadline of Sat 11pm PST and to upload accordingly. Note, this is only an idea, not a rule change or anything.

personally i dont think a league can run like this. people post right before a deadline. its human nature. voting will be non existant and without feed back people will stop writing. the league will wither and die. thats my opinion.

and some battles have already been closed so we should stick with the deadlines set forth at least for this week to be fair to all

Certain 07-26-2013 01:03 PM

I agree with Mike Wrecka. All the proof you need about that idea not really working is available this week. Almost everyone procrastinated even with a deadline. Gazette and I posted our verses Tuesday and didn't get a vote for more than 48 hours.

The natural inclination for people is to come up with excuses not to write, either internally or externally. Then it's for people to come up with excuses not to vote. You have to provide deadlines, multiple deadlines, or shit won't get done.

Moreover, if you know your opponent is better than you, what would stop you from dropping a verse three minutes before the deadline to get a tie?

Plot 07-26-2013 02:02 PM

I hope Deadman shows, either way can I get some sort of feed on my
short drop, haven't written in a while and it was a pretty quick key obv.

Rawn M.D. 07-26-2013 02:04 PM

Imma drop the remainder of my votes in a bit

Fig 07-26-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 104221)
godam you fig

Whats good bro, I came through lol

NYCSPITZ 07-26-2013 03:05 PM

sup Mr.J can I get an ext I'll write something in a couple hrs? If not it's cool I'm still happy b/c I just scored a potential 100k+/yr job!! yay!!

Adonis 07-26-2013 03:15 PM

So @NYCSPITZ has officially made this a $100 cash prize for the final playoff champ.


You're too kind sir...

@zygote bad idea

NYCSPITZ 07-26-2013 04:10 PM

lmao!! Maybe.


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