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Rojo187 07-06-2013 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Void (Post 90284)
It used to be pretty universally accepted that Ja Rule was garbage. DMX was third tier, if that. Lil Wayne would have been fringing on maybe decent. Wordplay has changed. IT hasn't changed, but what most people think of as clever wordplay isn't all that clever at all. Topics are shallow and poorly delivered. Pop Hip Hop is all about what sells. Those rappers selling the same crap reinforces that this is what people in Hip Hop should like. The masses are sheep. It takes someone with a bit of charisma and some taste to push things in the right direction, but most people with talent and a brain are too busy making money hand over fist to give a shit about the state of Hip Hop's quality.
dmx was third tier? FOH

whaaaaaaa....X was the biggest thing popping at his height...2 platinum records in one year...spearheaded the ruff Ryders...and rapped with what most artists lack nowadays and that's passion...

dudes be forgetting....smh....

Rawn M.D. 07-06-2013 12:30 PM
^^agreed; X was hype (not meant in the derogatory manner)

Geno 07-06-2013 12:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJPp...e_gdata_player

I think joe budden summed it up the best with this epic ass 15 minute track

Spoken 07-06-2013 12:32 PM
Nuff said but I disagree on the hip hop is dead... It's just on recovery especially is you got dudes like waka flock and Wayne (just to name a few TBH)

dassim 07-06-2013 03:01 PM
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Drake and wayne killed hip hop? I hope you get your dick caught in a jansport zipper
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Faggots who made this thread and faggots who encourage it

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ill nik-A 07-06-2013 03:03 PM
Wack

Inno 07-06-2013 03:12 PM
white people ruined hiphop.


quote me.

dassim 07-06-2013 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Objective (Post 90079)
So has music in general because of internet etc. Your point is invalid.
Rap sales declined by 44 percent, we at the tipping point. Yes all Genres are losing sales but Hip Hop is declining the fastest

Void 07-06-2013 03:21 PM
lol @ DMX being good

lolololol @ your reasoning for that being that he was 'the biggest thing popping at his height'

Third tier. Average on his better tracks. Horrible on the majority of them.

My Hip Hop taste is better than yours.

Void 07-06-2013 03:23 PM
Sales. Pretty sure sales only represent what people are spending money on. Equity decides Hip Hop's mortality? You assholes.

Void 07-06-2013 03:25 PM
White people ruined Hip Hop. That might be true, but black people got in line behind the white people and ran it into the ground by following the money. I wouldn't begrudge them that, but lets place blame where it belongs if we're going to get all racist.

dassim 07-06-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Void (Post 90378)
Sales. Pretty sure sales only represent what people are spending money on. Equity decides Hip Hop's mortality? You assholes.
If it can't sell, it becomes irrelevant. Its simple as that and there is not enough cognitive dissonance to delay the fact. It will soon fade away and fade to gray just like Doo wop and Disco.

Void 07-06-2013 03:28 PM
I liked It's Dark and Hell is Hot, btw. I'm arguing tastes, I guess. DMX, in his brand of Hip Hop was one of the better ones at the time. I'll admit that. I just have higher standards.

Void 07-06-2013 03:31 PM
Pretty sure Hip Hop started without being relevant at all. Now the money it makes decides whether it's worthy as a music? Like I said earlier, I guess by dead, you meant how Hip Hop had become the most POPULAR music in America. That might be an accomplishment, but it by no means defines it. I should insult you.

Rawn M.D. 07-06-2013 03:39 PM
@Void im just curious as to what u consider 'good hiphop' to be?

also - its dark n hell is hot was x's best cd imo

dassim 07-06-2013 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Void (Post 90385)
Pretty sure Hip Hop started without being relevant at all. Now the money it makes decides whether it's worthy as a music? Like I said earlier, I guess by dead, you meant how Hip Hop had become the most POPULAR music in America. That might be an accomplishment, but it by no means defines it. I should insult you.
It WAS the most popular genre in America back in 2006 but its 2013. Country and Classic Rock are the Top Genres.

Rawn M.D. 07-06-2013 03:46 PM
I would venture to guess that dubstep outsells hip hop now a days...id actually b interested in seeing genre to sales, if anyone can post a reference link.

Rojo187 07-06-2013 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Void (Post 90383)
I liked It's Dark and Hell is Hot, btw. I'm arguing tastes, I guess. DMX, in his brand of Hip Hop was one of the better ones at the time. I'll admit that. I just have higher standards.
higher standards..

like who?

dassim 07-06-2013 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon (Post 90404)
I would venture to guess that dubstep outsells hip hop now a days...id actually b interested in seeing genre to sales, if anyone can post a reference link.

Meh, Its gaining momentum but that Genre is not making powerhouse sales to be recognized yet

Geno 07-06-2013 04:58 PM
X da gawg as far as emotional reall ass nigga shit tho. I'm bumpin undisputed religiously


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