3000

Yes

No solo album, still better than the rest of em

Lol i like 3k but cmon he fell off and yall knows it

3000 fell off, but em's dope making albums about farting and ring around the little boy asshole?

Right.

so fresh and so clean, clean

No. He just doesn't rap often, but when he does, it's just as good as it ever was.

Da best

Yes he has a couple gimmick tracks on albums, albums which still have some good lyrical content..but 3k fell off long ago.

There's always some understanding to be had with this type of conversation. Are we taking album sales and current relevancy into consideration? Because I look purely at content.

3 stacks, the best.

u prolly can't relate to what hov is saying... like i said em had betta flow but lyrically he smashed Em.....
and Hov said it best

Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?

You probably can't relate to what Em is saying then. I think both of them were nasty on that track, but Em just sounded better.

Dougie fresh

Jay had a lyrically sound and poignant verse on Renegades, but his delivery on the track is what derailed it. There's a way of writing and delivering lines in a certain order and manner that makes the listener pay attention. It's the equivalent of having a good film with poor editing. Great story, decent acting, but the editing makes it hard to follow. Em on the other hand had an amazing flow, was more entertaining lyrically and stood out more. Jay killed himself on Renegades.

This question is bullshit to ask anymore. Rap's too old to have a universal best. You can run off a top ten of people who have held the spot at one time or another.

Em, Jay, Mos Def, 3000, Pun, Pac, Biggie, Meth for a minute maybe.

Didn't read shit in this thread HOV DA GOD

Hol up we talkin bout jay vs em on renegade??

Jay smashed that nigga fuck nas

Nas lost. Fuck ether

Jay > em fighting the Mormans

Ether was better though
much better

Hold on u killn my vibe lol wtf?

Mos def... ran rap at one point?


Method man ran rap? No


Neither did andre3000 my nigga. I think pun is a stretch but I'll let u have em

But yo jay was top 3 from 98- like 05 or some shit lol, thats not the same as just havin some dope verses.

I can even take dmx since he was top three 97-99

Em was there too around the same time frame as jay

But not too many other ppl were that revelant for that long consecutively

Not as a diss track

Superugly was raw as fuck ether was just a better put together song

U kno u hit a nigga too hard when ya mother make u apologize,

Smarten up nas http://mobth720.photobucket.com/albu...g?t=1320619817

What the fuck does 'run rap' mean? Influence? I wasn't talking influence. That's based on popularity, even if it is in the community. Ask anyone named in this thread whether or not Mos Def is one of the best and they'd agree.

You'll let me have him? lol Thanks for your approval. I needed it.

thats what i mean lol, i don't think any mainstream diss track, as a diss track, was all that great

I wanna hear what Evidence had prepared for Eminem had he not apologized.