Lots of butchered science going on in this thread. But don't let that stop you, please, grab that bong and keep going.

lmao

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by all means contribute Oatmeal

I've never seen someone so unaware and confident simultaneously as namix. He's condescending and ignorant. One of the worst type of people.

On my phone and at the airport, but you guys should revisit Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle, law vs. theory (and the process it takes to move from the latter to the former), as well as the limitations of entanglement (speed, mass, etc). That's just the stuff I recall at the moment.

sounds like namix was trying to start a phenomenological discussion of some sort. its a school of thought that criticizes the entire field of natural sciences as they stand.. not invalid but unpopular in many circles im sure..

idk about this thread its too much weirdness in here already. give people an opportunity to flex what theyve learned on stoned google voyages and boom you have 3 pages

totally agree, to the point i'm not even sure where you think we disagree? when you boil it down, the scientific method is not so dissimilar from the philosophical method.

honestly, grasping the fractal relationship above and below is all that's need for literally every other answer to be reached. it's why we cellular mitosis works the way it does, it's why we create in our image in our offspring when we pass on our genes, and it's why we create in our image in every creative moment, invention, computer and machine.

But of course they are looking for answers bro - that is the goal of any question, and the very concept of science (just as philosophy) stemmed from the desire to answer questions in a methodical way.

again though - that fractal relationship is the key, and everything else in between is typically miscommunication.



but word, interested in where in particular you think we are in disagreement?

Also cancer is literally rapidly growing cells, which directly correlates to the overpopulation issues we're having. Our race is literally a cancer in the universe. Cells which manifest into properties beyond most cells, go void, rapidly produce, die off, and begin a new cycle. A verse topical I'm going to write is actually about this very topic. Comparing it at three levels, from the micro cell, to the mid plain of consciousness, us, and the macro, being the galactic pattern of life. It's like a fractal you can follow and trace back from the biggest conceivable concept of space down to smallest form of matter we have the capability of seeing.

DEFINITELY wasnt trying to be condescending, not sure how i was?

Split - seriously, if i was 'condescending', definitely apologize, wasn't trying to be in the least.

word up, was just trying to throw another angle out there.

honestly my worldview is super simple, pretty much every field and mode of thought is just trying to explain the same shit from a different angle, and they all pretty much lead to the same place in the end if you keep asking "why" long enough.

I've been reading into causality a lot these last few years. It's literally a paradigm shifting realization tbh

yea bro... i went off the deep end by pretty much everyone's standards, which is why most people which have a similar realization pendulum swing back and/or don't talk about it and/or go any further.


hey, at a minimum, that realization made me very effective at a job that requires predicting trends, tracking online buyer behavior, navigating everyone online to a conversion they believe they are making themselves, and predicting the trends all over again lol

what's that


also on the topic of looking for answers. if there's a box in front of me, I might think "what's in there" then open it. Inside is a smaller box. I might wonder about that box, then open it. Smaller box. open that. keeps going and going and going

eventually ive placed the question aside and have just begun opening boxes until there aren't anymore

But my question is still valid, though

@Split Go look up a youtube vid or documentary on causality, one does not simply explain it in one message.

Having an outdoor job and watching the formation of clouds has given me an excellent nose for weather prediction. It does have it's random and sporadic advantages, may as well try to enjoy them.

I know what causality is, how was it a paradigm shifting realization for you, or what did you mean by that

For me in particular, it was fascinating in terms of the medical field and the nature of illness. That's one way in particular that stands out

I have had much discussion on this very area with my work colleagues. There is such a unanimous decision within the scientific community and overseas expatriates. Listen if you can understand and follow, then very well.
- while some people cannot understand these concepts such as the space time continuum and the other world metaphysical theory, for some obvious reasons I am happy to assist.
- Science is manmade – as in it is made by men, following from this thesis we find that man are in fact men…
- And what is a man if nothing but just flesh and blood and connections of neurones? Flesh and blood contains polarity and magnetism (your amino acids and essential haemoglobins) remember these are PHYSICAL and CONCRETE properties...
- How can flesh and blood equate to truth? It does not equate truth because truth is not a concrete PROPERTY but rather a metaphysical CONCEPT.
- Therefore science is based on OUTside assumptions/the thoughts of physical men. Science should never be REGARDED as based on EVIDENCE rather than the PEOPLE (flesh and blood, neurones and amino acids) who OBSERVE the evidence.
- Therefore science is INcorrect and should be DISregarded at all junctures.
Although in conclusion: as we move towards the philosophical DUALITY of thought-science-technology we find more and more of these so called QUANTUM quandaries. Things are happening “faster” but at the same “time” our knowledge of the SELF is “stagnating”.

Definitely! What's "neat" about predictive modeling, is that it can start from and within any subject matter and speak in the unique language that individual needs to hear it in --- then as they come to understand it, they can truly see those same patterns in all things.

You have an outdoor job, i'm locked behind a computer screen or in boardrooms. You could see the patterns in the clouds and how it translates to weather --- vs. marketing trends translating to cost efficiency/buyer behavior.... always anomalies will always happen, to your point - but to the degree that even 'anomalies' can be trended.... sometimes people forget their are literally statistical measures to 'predict anomalies' anyway, it takes that to 'predict' anything more accurately!

And at some juncture, the patterns truly all relate. I wouldnt be surprised if there is some sort of correlation between weather patterns AND marketing trends and economies lol, it's all connected :)

good shit man

don't disagree at all man, still not sure where you think we were in disagreement.


how many smaller boxes would you need to see before believing they were infinite? and if you believed they were infinite, would you keep looking for them?