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namix 05-09-2014 02:05 PM

there's a ton of smart shit in the bible that transcends religion, ESPECIALLY if people read it without religious biased.

with just a bit of discernment it's not hard to see that the bible probably did more to create religion than religion did to create it.

veritas 05-09-2014 02:07 PM

Exactly. Christianity is a fellowship. Not a religion.

namix 05-09-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 332724)
Exactly. Christianity is a fellowship. Not a religion.

Word up man.

One of those 'awake but dark' souls who tries to 'break others' asked me how my faith would change if they proved that Jesus never existed.

I said that he cannot prove Jesus never existed, because we are talking about him now.


searching for evidence is fruitless when truth is evident

veritas 05-09-2014 02:25 PM

Word.

What seperates Christianity from religion is this:

Religion says do do

Christianity says it is done

Religion is a burden no man can carry

Christianity is liberty and freedom

JESUS DIED FOR OUR SINS. ALL WE NEED TO DO IS BELIEVE THAT.

BUT WHO WANTS TO ADMIT THAT THEY DESERVE HELL!?

uh-oh 05-09-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namix (Post 332723)
with just a bit of discernment it's not hard to see that the bible probably did more to create religion than religion did to create it.

dumbest shit you ever said

namix 05-09-2014 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 332860)
dumbest shit you ever said

heh.

good luck in your game of seek-and-hide, uh-oh...


some day it might make sense.

uh-oh 05-09-2014 07:12 PM

your claiming the bible created religion?

how am i hiding?

veritas is ignoring me because he has blind faith.

i can accept someone having faith. faith being a belief in something without proof. but blind faith, being belief in something despite evidence opposing it, i can never respect.

namix 05-09-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 332911)
your claiming the bible created religion?

how am i hiding?

veritas is ignoring me because he has blind faith.

i can accept someone having faith. faith being a belief in something without proof. but blind faith, being belief in something despite evidence opposing it, i can never respect.

it's all the same bro..

but naw, wasn't saying you were hiding. sometimes seeking makes shit harder to find, leads people to create bias and jump to conclusions, be less open minded than they think they are.


truth is evident man... its not fluff im giving you, you can literally 'feel it' if you allow yourself to. certain concepts, just resonate with all of us -- whether we chose to follow them or not, that is a different matter.

the bible consists of many truths -- as a lot of ancient doctrine -- and many 'truths' are echoed across different tongues and times.... so yes, I believe that religion is 'made in the image' of the bible, which was made in the image of truth.

i also recognize that 'constitutions' manipulate truth, and the bible itself, for worldly benefit.... such as your allusion to constantine -- council of nicea /etc.

but it can all be validated with discernment man...loving thy neighbor makes sense in science, theology, and across all religions or worldviews.. it just makes sense.... again, doesnt mean we do it or do it all the time ---

but the "evidence" is evident all around us, everywhere, at all times.

uh-oh 05-09-2014 07:34 PM

listen here you filthy hippy

im to high for your nonsensical SPEAK

yes the bible has messages within it that are great or whatever universal "goods''

these ideas/messages don't originate from the bible, the bible didnt create "religion"

thtas what i was talking about.

now i'm going to watch the draft. <3

namix 05-09-2014 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 332921)
listen here you filthy hippy

im to high for your nonsensical SPEAK

yes the bible has messages within it that are great or whatever universal "goods''

these ideas/messages don't originate from the bible, the bible didnt create "religion"

thtas what i was talking about.

now i'm going to watch the draft. <3

you are too high to understand what i am talking about... i am saying the fucking same thing dude. Religions anchored themselves to ancient doctrine that had those "universal goods" DOCUMENTED.

and the ideas/messages don't originate from the bible - agreed. They come from within. someone fucking documented them.

we should be able to use fewer keystrokes when agreeing with eachother you fucking filthy like-minded hippy.

i am watching the draft, too lol.

zygote 05-09-2014 07:49 PM

Uh-oh I was once a misguided soul like you. Cynicism and false-rationalities kept me blind to His Truth. The Judaeo-Christian God exists. His evidence surrounds us - a pleasant breeze on a warm summer’s day, a newborn’s smiling face, a good bowl of cucumber broth. God loves you individually and unconditionally. Kneel at His feet at allow His abundance of blessings to trickle down upon your countenance. Accept the Christ Lord into your soul, and into your self. Hallelujah and Hosanna on High!

namix 05-09-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zygote (Post 332926)
Uh-oh I was once a misguided soul like you. Cynicism and false-rationalities kept me blind to His Truth. The Judaeo-Christian God exists. His evidence surrounds us - a pleasant breeze on a warm summer’s day, a newborn’s smiling face, a good bowl of cucumber broth. God loves you individually and unconditionally. Kneel at His feet at allow His abundance of blessings to trickle down upon your countenance. Accept the Christ Lord into your soul, and into your self. Hallelujah and Hosanna on High!

wow.

whether sarcastic or sincere, it was awesome.

veritas 05-09-2014 08:16 PM

Uh oh....

Do you check the stability of every chair you plan to sit in...before you sit in it?

No....you dont. You exercise blind faith.

You have more blind faith than I do...BECUASE NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THEY SAW A MONKEY TURN INTO A MAN. NO ONE. EVER.

Masaii 05-09-2014 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 332940)
BECUASE NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THEY SAW A MONKEY TURN INTO A MAN. NO ONE. EVER.

I once saw this man aged 1,000,000 years old he saw it over a progressive period. Think his name was science. Although he didn't really see it, its just a theory of his. But I mean, MUST BE LEGIT BECAUSE ITS A GOOD THEORY RIGHT?

millz 05-09-2014 08:27 PM

This is starting to turn into great comedy.


You guys bring the snakes. I'll supply the blood.

veritas 05-09-2014 08:40 PM

Whats funny?

Has anyobe anywhere at anytime ever see a monkey turn into a man?

Or how bout even one of those *supposed* in between stages walking around?

Masaii 05-09-2014 08:43 PM

The only beef I have with science is that everything is a theory. Its not 100%. So therefore it still requires a little bit of faith, which is ironically what they are against. Seems legit.

millz 05-09-2014 08:55 PM

Evolution happens over a vast amount of time. Something that would be impossible for 1 person to witness. But it's at least plausible.


You know what is not plausible putting 2 of every creature into a wooden ship that measure 450ft by 75ft by 45ft.

The logistics of that is not possible. We can easily verify that. Not to mention that if say all of mankind either spawned from 2 people or was again spawned from a small family. We can scientifically show the effects caused by inbredding in both animals and humans.



You ever met a man that's 900+ years of age?

veritas 05-09-2014 08:57 PM

So at what point in the millions of years did monkeys stop evolving bro?

I mean in all of our recorded history wouldnt one person have seen it once?

MonkTheOracle 05-09-2014 09:04 PM

this was going in a good direction, now it got kinda stupid


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