How the hell are you going to call Michigan mediocre when they lost to tOSU by ONE. POINT.

what does that say about tOSU?

actually n/m, little brother just said it all.

and if you want to say "historically.."

hoke already beat tOSU. in his FIRST. YEAR.

so either live in the past or the present. either way, michigan's not "mediocre" - they weren't great this year, but there were many reasons for that.

still the winningest program in NCAA history

still able to beat tOSU in recent memory

so either way.. either M isn't mediocre.. or tOSU is barely above mediocre

take your pick, dancake

Win's a win. Rivalry game.

If you want to say Michigan isn't mediocre....I don't know what to tell you broski.

I guess they're good? 7-5 is good. You win, I withdraw my argument.

word that was terrible

i dont even know what to say right now. i took no glory and didnt really feel any pride when OSU was winning. been trying to get into college this year, thought i was failing at it cuz i felt no emotion.

but i realized in the last 3 minutes or so of this game, i cared. seeing them lose sucked

im gonna follow college from now on i guess.

where does that drop osu probably? they still get a bowl game right?

and diode shut up lol. michigan was terrible

by your logic, akron is as good as ohio state, because michigan almost beat ohio state, and akron almost beat michigan

Yeah they'll still be in BCS bowl most likely.

Now I'm rooting for FSU. Another SEC championship would be horrid. They could say they won the last 7 (?) BCS Championships. Most annoying fans in sport, and it's a whole conference. Kill me now.

probably played their way into one of the lesser bcs bowls since NIU blew it this week

no, actually, that is a standard issue logical fallacy

so. yeah. no.

my logic is the two teams played each other directly, which is the topic of discussion, and if michigan is mediocre, then a mediocre team came within a 2pt conversion of beating tOSU.