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~RustyGunZ~ 03-23-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharaohs Army (Post 732551)
I think we're both athiests knuck

Nah

I believe in deities. I just don’t think we can say which religion is “right” if any even are.

Pharaohs Army 03-23-2019 08:34 PM

I don't believe in deities. So I was wrong. You're not an athiest. But I'm surprised you believe in deities.

DMS 03-23-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Answer (Post 732383)
christians are 75% of the US population, you cant be a 3/4 majority and a victim at the same time

This is false, but to be the victim you have to be a massive pussy.

veritas 03-24-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead (Post 732552)
Nah

I believe in deities. I just don’t think we can say which religion is “right” if any even are.

Define deity please

Destroyer 03-24-2019 11:54 AM

“Made-up powerful wizard”

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 732611)
Define deity please

I don’t make up definitions, so the one in the dictionary

uh-oh 03-24-2019 12:11 PM

i don't think you're agnostic knuck.

i don't believe in deities. but i consider myself agnostic because its literally me coming from a place of humans don't have the capability of knowing one way or the other, so taking a hard side of atheist/religious is goofy

if you have a belief in deities that negates the whole agnostic thing

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 732618)
i don't think you're agnostic knuck.

i don't believe in deities. but i consider myself agnostic because its literally me coming from a place of humans don't have the capability of knowing one way or the other, so taking a hard side of atheist/religious is goofy

if you have a belief in deities that negates the whole agnostic thing

But it doesn’t.

Do you guys not know how to use an actual, physical dictionary?

If you believe nothing is likely or possible you’re an atheist

If you think we have no way of knowing (meaning you believe in deities of some nature) than you’re agnostic.

Saying you can’t say means you are open to any religion possibly being right but none being factually “right”.

uh-oh 03-24-2019 12:37 PM

nah doggie

if you believe in deities you ain't agnostic. if you believe in the possibility of deities you can probably define it as being agnostic. but a hardline stance of a belief in deities negates the whole point of agnosticism, which is not knowing.

i don't believe in deities, of any defined religion, but i'm not arrogant enough to say they don't exist. that doesn't mean i believe they do exist though.

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 12:42 PM

You’re wrong. I don’t have anything else to put forward so.

Big Bolo 03-24-2019 01:12 PM

You barely had anything to start with...

uh-oh 03-24-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead (Post 732628)
You’re wrong. I don’t have anything else to put forward so.

i mean you can link whatever dictionary you subscribe to and im pretty sure it would state exactly what i've been saying.

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 732634)
i mean you can link whatever dictionary you subscribe to and im pretty sure it would state exactly what i've been saying.

Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable.

Im not saying a certain deity exist. I’m saying I believe there’s some sort of power over something most likely but we’ll never know and it’s kind of a waste of the time we have on earth worrying about it. To not believe in deities as a possibility makes you an atheist.

uh-oh 03-24-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead (Post 732637)
Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable.

Im not saying a certain deity exist. I’m saying I believe there’s some sort of power over something most likely but we’ll never know and it’s kind of a waste of the time we have on earth worrying about it. To not believe in deities as a possibility makes you an atheist.

thats what i've been saying. the only difference is you said you believe in deities. you didn't say you believe in "the possibility of deities". i'm saying that means you aren't agnostic. whether you think that deity has to be a defined one is irrelevant to the argument.

Destroyer 03-24-2019 01:45 PM

Here, Knuck

“Agnostic atheism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.[1][2][3]”

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 732640)
thats what i've been saying. the only difference is you said you believe in deities. you didn't say you believe in "the possibility of deities". i'm saying that means you aren't agnostic. whether you think that deity has to be a defined one is irrelevant to the argument.

I believe in the possibility of higher powers, through transitivity of not beleiveing we can know anything is certain.

I don’t understand what’s complicated about this.

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 732643)
Here, Knuck

“Agnostic atheism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.[1][2][3]”

Thank you

I’m also not white uh oh, I’m of primarily Northern European descent. Since categorizing as the most relevant step in a hierarchy of identity isn’t cool cus logic is hard.

uh-oh 03-24-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knocklehead
I believe in deities. I just don’t think we can say which religion is “right” if any even are.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Knocklehead
I believe in the possibility of higher powers, through transitivity of not beleiveing we can know anything is certain.

these are different statements.

my posts have been in response to the first quote in this post. its a line in the sand stance, compared to the second quote in this post, where you post the uncertain, actual agnostic stance.

uh-oh 03-24-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead (Post 732647)
Thank you

I’m also not white uh oh, I’m of primarily Northern European descent. Since categorizing as the most relevant step in a hierarchy of identity isn’t cool cus logic is hard.

im just saying you're bringing up all this talk of definitions and dictionaries while not adhering to them. i didn't even know it got broken down further like what des posted.

i was just operating off the baseline definition of agnosticism.

~RustyGunZ~ 03-24-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 732649)
im just saying you're bringing up all this talk of definitions and dictionaries while not adhering to them. i didn't even know it got broken down further like what des posted.

i was just operating off the baseline definition of agnosticism.

I didn’t. Pharaoh did.


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