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Destroyer 01-05-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 721326)
Life starts at conception.

I mean you can’t just say that because look at zelph who was carried to term

veritas 01-05-2019 09:27 PM

I see the bait you threw out, please do not take my not responding to it as a disrespect for it. It was nice. I just refuse to pick on Zelph.

~RustyGunZ~ 01-05-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Qualm (Post 721332)
naw. The only reason people feel pain is because of their brain, there are people with neurological malfunctions that cause them to not even feel pain, so you could shoot/stab them and they won’t even notice. That poses the question “is it still unethical to hurt them?” And I say ‘yes’ because there’s still the affect of the womb and the affect of possibly dying and regardless of whether they feel pain, they may still want to have their life. Why do they want life? Because their brain tells them to. It’s a biological imperative that developed through thousands of years of evolution where people fear death and want life. Which makes sense, because any species that didn’t would’ve already died out.

But to ultimately understand that the only reason humans desire life/fear death is because neurologically they’re preconditioned to is the key. A baby that hasn’t formed a brain or who isn’t cognizant of their existence can’t desire life or fear death, they’re nothing but an inanimate object.

Saying life begins at conception is stupid af. Life only begins when a baby can neurologically process it, which means that a baby being forced into an impoverished home that can’t sustain a baby becomes unethical the moment it’s born. It’s essentially saying “we’re going to destroy this inanimate object” vs. “we’re going to force this cognizant human being to live their entire life in a home where they’re not wanted”. Option B is unequivocally the unethical one

But the more important issue brings us back to the trolley problem. The world is overpopulated, and we can disagree on the timespan but you’re ignorant if you don’t acknowledge that the expansion of humans threatens the entire human race, and anyone who condones families having 4+ children are choosing to kill the 5 over the 1.

Now sure, there are more elegant ways to implement birth control but nobody on the religious side of that fence are proposing those ideals

Only in 2019 can someone like you exist

You’re a moron, and as a pro-lifer I wish you were aborted

Plot 01-05-2019 09:49 PM

so spermatoza is not living?
They wriggle and swim?

Qualm 01-05-2019 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721336)
Only in 2019 can someone like you exist

You’re a moron, and as a pro-lifer I wish you were aborted

glad I could convert u

uh-oh 01-06-2019 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721337)
so spermatoza is not living?
They wriggle and swim?

they are "living"

but they aren't organisms, they're cells. if you created a perfect enviornment for sperm to thrive in, they'd just die out, because they cant reproduce on their own. its just a fancy cell basically, their purpose is to move your genetic material into an egg, like how white blood cells move to fight illnesses/infections etc

Exis 01-06-2019 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 721261)
It's Irish as fuck, bro.

Then I will close my cake hole lol, yo is you the Badweather from RF? If so, now I get the comedic shit...you were always droppin' one liners there, I wish you well on your 5 minute set bro...I remember you could really spit some heat in a verse also.

Your shit on what Geno posted was dope, kudos.

Amen 01-06-2019 08:25 AM

WTF is happening here on NC, guys.

Chill Phil 01-06-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Exis (Post 721354)
Then I will close my cake hole lol, yo is you the Badweather from RF? If so, now I get the comedic shit...you were always droppin' one liners there, I wish you well on your 5 minute set bro...I remember you could really spit some heat in a verse also.

Your shit on what Geno posted was dope, kudos.

Thanks, my guy. I am Badweather! I haven't been on RF in a long long time. Like...years. the last track I posted there was this joint called "Killing Me," which was recorded like 4 years ago.

Was your username Exis over there too?

Sharp 01-06-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by boof (Post 721164)
antivaxxer: anti flu vax

Of everything in this thread this is the one I'd like to see elaborated on, if you don't mind

DMS 01-06-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 721333)
I mean you can’t just say that because look at zelph who was carried to term

This debate is so fucking simple guys, it really is.

What is a philosophical person( someone who needs moral consideration*)?
Give me any fucking answer I’ll prove it wrong through analogy.

* when I say consideration, I mean treatment as best as possible. So if a child and a grown ass man were in a burning building and you could only save one, both are deserving they be saved by you, but the child deserves it more most would think.

Amen 01-06-2019 12:13 PM

I really wish Lenox would just find you already and beat you up.

DMS 01-06-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 721371)
I really wish Lenox would just find you already and beat you up.

He actually just asked me to write a 16 verse EP with him like 4 weeks ago

Exis 01-06-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 721364)
Thanks, my guy. I am Badweather! I haven't been on RF in a long long time. Like...years. the last track I posted there was this joint called "Killing Me," which was recorded like 4 years ago.

Was your username Exis over there too?

I think RF died around 2012? Or there about...When some nigga forgot to pay the electricity bill lol.Yeah bro I was Exis there, & I remember that track, shit was tight.

bleak 01-06-2019 04:54 PM

ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: bleak
Do you believe in God: no
Religion: it's taking me a while so I guess agnostic
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: ye
Do you believe in Climate Change: there is no believing in climate change, it's a fact.
Should gays be allowed to marry: why not
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: idk what this means, if it means suicide then sure why not the population is out of control
Should prostitution be legalized: obv
Are women equal to men: we are all human, it depends on the man and woman. Nunez is clearly superior to the average man but would lose at her weight class to a world class man fighter

Are you

creationist: na
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: lol
flat earther:
death penalty:
anti-immigration:
pro-guns: yes

I believe in free will and original thought

Exis 01-07-2019 03:37 AM

Why should prostitution be legalized? Just curious...

Exis 01-07-2019 03:39 AM

Why not just go2 a brothel where hoes are all checked out medical wise instead of pickin' up some aids riddled slut...

uh-oh 01-07-2019 05:26 AM

a brothel is legalized prostitution

Exis 01-07-2019 05:44 AM

Good call...

uh-oh 01-07-2019 06:20 AM

but word thats part of why it should be legalized

if it was, there would be no foul play involved, pimps, human trafficking, etc. etc. along with testing for diseases and all the rest of it. just regulate it. plus then you could tax it and give the government more money to blow frivolously on things that don't benefit the citizens, the government loves doing that

win win


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