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veritas 10-14-2018 11:51 AM

And if you choose to continue expanding your field for internal validation over pursuing what your talents and responsibilities would have you, it will grow. If you choose to grow the field ONLY for the external validation it will eventually wither.

The paradox is: the external validation will come naturally when it is not the sole reason for the activity.

Applied here: win in the discussion because it helps train your mental sharpness, your wit, and your articulation so that you can apply this to the real world and be a better person for you and your loved ones and the people who depend on you. Not just to be able to say you won and ha ha look at me and look how I owned you.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-14-2018 12:02 PM

So does the follow through matter?

Say my intention is to basically train myself mentally as you said, so a good motive. But I never apply it so technically just wasted ha ha I owned yous. Does how long it takes to apply that matter? Is there a threshold where it can’t be turned around?

veritas 10-14-2018 12:04 PM

please state your question in another manner, because I do not quite understand it. I apologize.

veritas 10-14-2018 12:05 PM

wait...I undersand it hang on

veritas 10-14-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706476)
So does the follow through matter?

Say my intention is to basically train myself mentally as you said, so a good motive. But I never apply it so technically just wasted ha ha I owned yous. Does how long it takes to apply that matter? Is there a threshold where it can’t be turned around?

knowledge is power you have heard.

This is false.

Knowledge with action is power. OF Course the follow through matters. IF a man slaps around his woman or breaks her bones and when she says she will leave him, he says "Baby I am sorry I will never do it again..." then he does it again....do his words mean anything? Extreme example compared to boarding habits, but accurate nonetheless.

Research says that you can teach an old dog new tricks (neurogenesis, neuroplasticity)...however: the longer and more solidified the behavior, the harder it is to change.

Furthermore: THE MORE INVESTED THE INDIVIDUAL IS IN THAT WEAKER PERSONA, the near impossibility of the change occurring. This is really the heart of the issue....EGO is an investment in a false persona, and all the thoughts, feelings, and actions that it brings with it. this is a crucial point.

So...good news: The fact that you are even considering this idea is a good start.

Ball is in your court, Seth.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-14-2018 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706479)
knowledge is power you have heard.

This is false.

Knowledge with action is power. OF Course the follow through matters. IF a man slaps around his woman or breaks her bones and when she says she will leave him, he says "Baby I am sorry I will never do it again..." then he does it again....do his words mean anything? Extreme example compared to boarding habits, but accurate nonetheless.

Research says that you can teach an old dog new tricks (neurogenesis, neuroplasticity)...however: the longer and more solidified the behavior, the harder it is to change.

Furthermore: THE MORE INVESTED THE INDIVIDUAL IS IN THAT WEAKER PERSONA, the near impossibility of the change occurring. This is really the heart of the issue....EGO is an investment in a false persona, and all the thoughts, feelings, and actions that it brings with it. this is a crucial point.

So...good news: The fact that you are even considering this idea is a good start.

Ball is in your court, Seth.

I gotta bring the kid to the pumpkin patch and don’t wanna disrespect this post with a weak and short response so I’ll be back to it

But side thought; we should do a show/podcast where you treat someone live over the course of a certain timeline

Amen 10-14-2018 07:45 PM

Lmfao treat someone live.

veritas 10-14-2018 09:08 PM

I been doing that for the last decade round here lol.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-14-2018 09:19 PM

I mean like real shit not boarding

Geno 10-14-2018 09:26 PM

Youll never know

veritas 10-14-2018 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706510)
I mean like real shit not boarding

Who would you suggest? Who would legit be real enough to be real?

~RustyGunZ~ 10-14-2018 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706514)
Who would you suggest? Who would legit be real enough to be real?

I think a lot of people would be until it got tough. I believe a lott of people don’t realize that they lead unhealthy lives.

veritas 10-14-2018 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 706517)
I think a lot of people would be until it got tough. I believe a lott of people don’t realize that they lead unhealthy lives.


You made a comment earlier, and I am paraphrasing, basically about how some people do not think therapy works. Fair enough. However, it is usually because clients don't like tough.


So your statement proves my point. Unfortunately, lol.

~RustyGunZ~ 10-14-2018 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 706518)
You made a comment earlier, and I am paraphrasing, basically about how some people do not think therapy works. Fair enough. However, it is usually because clients don't like tough.


So your statement proves my point. Unfortunately, lol.

Very unfortunate. Most people simply can’t handle criticism. Some better than others, but once things get more and more personal and demons need to be fought they become fetuses again.

Sinacog 01-30-2019 08:54 PM

Egos are cool..there used sometimes as defense mechanicms to protect yourself from bad vibes and ish..but egos are cool and good in a way..

There's always going to be facts..egos can't hide from facts..and the truth..the truth gets your ego all the time..that's why in rap battles..ego's are diminished through good writing and punches..but it was okay..this is a okay discussion..but if you're protecting your ego..than that's okay as-well..but don't let it overeflate other things lol..this was nice..good one..peace..

boof 01-31-2019 03:22 PM

this is a great thread

Diode 01-31-2019 05:18 PM

bill gates is pretty fucking humble.

Diode 01-31-2019 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boof (Post 724391)
this is a great thread


hey man whatever happened to PM anyway

Objective 01-31-2019 06:26 PM

I have read nothing but I believe it's impossible to not be egotistical as human motivation and survival bases itself on it. Even helping someone else is egotistical because it makes you feel great. Even if you go out of your way to do so you wouldn't have helped them if it didn't make you feel good in one way or the other.

By being humble and polite is to put yourself in a good light (or because it makes you feel good due to the way you treat others, a pretty common personal trait at that too) is one of the most egotistical things you can do. By not being humble and polite you are egotistical as well, but at least you are true to who you are at least which in itself is also stroking your ego. We're all egotistical douchebags, and some of you may even think "well, fuck, I'm not as egotistical as that person at least", whoa, stroking your ego on top of it? Bites teeth and breath air fast inwards for a sec while making a slightly awkward face in the most ego way possible.

Aero 01-31-2019 06:49 PM

Try being great at something first then you can figure it out. I’m great at everything I do and attempt so for me it’s passion driven but I keep it up bc of ego.


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