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Diode 08-09-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 691084)
When did God begin?

Both answers are leaps of faith and cannot be supported by facts if you dig deep enough

Now this is where the real fun begins. I'd prefer to link sources to far more qualified people than I to offer all the different theoretical answers to this question.

My core personal understanding is that the human need for the concept of "zero/nothing" is at direct odds with an answer.

Time simply began and will end.

Amen 08-09-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharp (Post 691063)
This is the kind of conversation that helps me not miss weed

Lol word.

Diode 08-09-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 691185)
folded back into itself into what?

what does the "itself" now exist in?

Into itself. It exists within itself.

Light reading for both heat death and singularity here, from the man himself:

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

Amen 08-09-2018 10:37 AM

Damn, a lot to read.

Going to add to book threads, once done. Is there an audio version? LOL

~RustyGunZ~ 08-09-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 691191)
Now this is where the real fun begins. I'd prefer to link sources to far more qualified people than I to offer all the different theoretical answers to this question.

My core personal understanding is that the human need for the concept of "zero/nothing" is at direct odds with an answer.

Time simply began and will end.

We’ll never know til we’re gone

Maybe not even then

Diode 08-09-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 691205)
We’ll never know til we’re gone

Maybe not even then

All about perspective. It's a demon-haunted world, after all.

veritas 08-09-2018 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 691193)
Into itself. It exists within itself.

Light reading for both heat death and singularity here, from the man himself:

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

Within itself within what?

Ghost1 08-09-2018 02:29 PM

lmao

Diode 08-09-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 691305)
Within itself within what?

You should read the linked article.

Fair?

Destroyer 08-09-2018 04:01 PM

It’s the same as what it exists within now, bro
It’s all there is whether at a single point or extrapolated out into what it currently is
It’s not like there’s the universe and then just a bunch of empty space outside of it
It’s what is. All of it

veritas 08-09-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 691330)
You should read the linked article.

Fair?

Fair. I did tho. After he said something about events before the Big Bang have no observational consequence I find it nonsensical. Is that fair?

Diode 08-09-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 691395)
Fair. I did tho. After he said something about events before the Big Bang have no observational consequence I find it nonsensical. Is that fair?

It's fair for you to have that opinion. Everyone's entitled to their own.

I'd encourage deeper reading to understand what Prof. Hawking means as observation is a key component of quantum physics.

veritas 08-09-2018 04:56 PM

Bro. I understand. Understanding that does not negate the validity of my question. What did the Big Bang bang out of?

~RustyGunZ~ 08-09-2018 05:10 PM

Space-time continuum is curved

Have you really not read hawking or Einstein?

Pharaohs Army 08-09-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 691399)
Bro. I understand. Understanding that does not negate the validity of my question. What did the Big Bang bang out of?

And now we get into the question of...What is Nothing?

PancakeBrah 08-09-2018 05:19 PM

Real pumped for the podcast.

Destroyer 08-09-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 691399)
Bro. I understand. Understanding that does not negate the validity of my question. What did the Big Bang bang out of?

It was like... way dense

Pharaohs Army 08-09-2018 06:44 PM

1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Pharaohs Army 08-09-2018 06:54 PM

I'm not religious at all, I just wanted to see how Genesis worded it.


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