yea i don't know what poets talking about. the blueprint holds up great, 0 problems with ye's beats on it.

bink had the best beats on it tho.

I disagree about ye's beats on blueprint..they aged well to me....

I think reasonable doubt aged poorly

Gtfoh

D'Evils > X's whole catalogue.

I cant respect someone who doesn't appreciate reasonable doubt

This x1000.

Ready to die.
Reasonable doubt.
Illmatic.

In that order.

Illmatic
Reasonable Doubt
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Ready to die

No way reasonable doubt is better than ready to die...

Man I ain't hating..Jay just ain't my cup of tea..dont understood where this jay is goat shit comes from.....I mean NOBODY was saying this shit prior to say 2005....so what has he released since then to make him the greatest ever all of a sudden??

2nd that

all dmx albums are better than jayz's shit.

Get at me dog.....is one if the rawest first singles ever

He one of the only remaining/alive mainstream enemies 2pac named, so staying power was established

The takeover bounce back from ether showed he could story of Adidon a heavy hitter like nas, instant top spot

Locks down beyonce, a female who hasn't ran through the whole industry, gives him depth

Various important media contributions, most notably American gangster

4:44 showed he always knew what he was doing

Everything is love is the victory lap

So the fact he is a 2pac enemy n still alive has something to do with being the best ever?

Losing to nas..who is and has always been better than him has something to do with best ever?

Ummm who he married has something to do with best ever?

Media contributions has what to do with music?

4.44 showed what?

Man you just made the worst GOAT arguments ever....

Wtf man a 4 year old debating that afroman is goat could make better points than that bullshit

Lol yeah just take away all his achievements and he ain't shit

U smokin crack again?
U better go put that "slippin" on and rethink that thought nigga.

Agree.
I was never a jay fan back when we had an active hiphop catalogue to listen to. Now that the new age brings wack talent... Of course jay seems like a god xs 1000p0. But he not. Hes the same jay from the 90s that you woulda picked nas mobb deep pac or biggie over. Just them niggas aint around no more. So lets be reall

Your arguments sucked.

You suppose to be arguing why he the greatest rapper ever and you talking about who he married and the fact 2pac dissed him and he still alive

You seriously think that's strong arguments for being the best mc ever?

Go jump in a lake nigga

trying to explain jay z's greatness is like trying to explain lebrons

if you can't see it your blinded by your own bias and hatred.

there are people better at different aspects, but no one has ever put them together at the level he has, with such longevity.

im still trying to figure out where your getting these random dates, it went from a new age fad of calling him goat to 2005?

meanwhile black album dropped in 03 with his first "retirement" and every rapper was out talking about how the GOAT retired.

I can't explain it any better then that he's a brand name. You get the same reaction saying snoop Dogg name in public you know who he is and what he's about. He ain't top 5 richest musicians being a junkie he works hard and makes quality music what kind of flow you want he just dropped contender for AOTY less then a month ago what more do you want he is responsible for kanye's growth and continues to contribute to him and countless others what more do you want nigga could of rapped with twista when he was fucking with jaz-o WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT

It's quite simple, just stop calling them the goats and comparing them with the real GOATS and you'd never have to worry about explaining anything.