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Destroyer 05-11-2015 11:22 AM

nas > Jay

uh-oh 05-11-2015 11:41 AM

NEGATIVE

Certain 05-11-2015 11:45 AM

I'll take Jay Z's fifth-best album over Nas' second-best.

Destroyer 05-11-2015 11:50 AM

fools

Diode 05-11-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 481306)
fools


oats 05-11-2015 01:18 PM

Distant Relatives is better than all but Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and The Black Album. It's not a true Nas album but the same could probably be said about God's Son.

Jay's lows aren't as low, though.

fraze 05-11-2015 01:31 PM

Nas was a victim of his greatest success happening too early his career. He has undeniable talent, but Illmatic overshadows all of his later work by its status as THE iconic hip hop album from the golden era of hip hop. That's not something anyone can top, not even Nas. But every step of the way he's been expected to try, despite the fact that Illmatic was so classic because it was an unforced, honest expression of a young black mans life in America.

He was successful too young, held captive by a music industry that doesn't understand his art but only popularity. He style is the epitome of underground lyricist, but he shuttled towards the role of mafioso kingpin (which nobody believed sorry Nas), because gangsta rap was big at the time, and pretend playboy gigolo (sorry you still need more people) with Ginuwine. Nas is not a pop artist, which his catalogue makes pretty clear, but apparently none of his producers are Nas fans.

fraze 05-11-2015 01:35 PM

Illmatic > Stillmatic / Distant Relatives / Lost Tapes / Reasonable Doubt / Blueprint / Black Album > 90% of Jay's Catologue / God's Son > Jay's wackest albums > 90% of Nas' Catologue >>>>>>> Nas' wackest albums

ill nik-A 05-11-2015 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481305)
I'll take Jay Z's fifth-best album over Nas' second-best.

easily

Destroyer 05-11-2015 01:41 PM

jay has reasonable doubt
that's all that i'd call classic
maybe the black album

PancakeBrah 05-11-2015 02:36 PM

I'm not a Jay fan but The Black Album is definitely a classic.

NYCSPITZ 05-11-2015 02:55 PM

they call it thanksgiving

I CALL YOUR HOLIDAY HELL DAY

NYCSPITZ 05-11-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oats murkel (Post 481295)
last two comments on-point.

I like Revolutionary Warfare, btw. solid beat, and the guest spots were serviceable. had the awesomely bad head-scratcher lyric: "I'm like a modern-day Hitler, black gorilla, crip and blood in one nigga."

also, Nas doesn't just have a classic. He has THE classic, which is different.

but he has produced a peculiar amount of mediocre and sub-par tracks.

yea that's pretty bad as a bar. his remix with ludacris was dope tho , made you look remix i believe

Ghost1 05-11-2015 03:05 PM

Blueprint is a classic also

uh-oh 05-11-2015 03:13 PM

blueprint is better than the black album

also

Certain 05-11-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fig (Post 481258)
His career isn't indicative of his impact.

Stylistically, Nas' influence is well understood.

He's a straight Rapper man Rapper bro. Nas isn't Kendrick, which you may know already. He got caught up in being a rap image though. I didn't intend for any of that to rhyme. I'm fucked up.

Point is, Nas done did what he did and your mediocre branding, @Certain, is only relative to his celebrity. Or maybe you just wonder why he can't make good music anymore. It's the same reason we can't write quite like we used to. Fuck I'm deep; moms inheritance.

No, you misunderstand. I respect the hell out of Nas. He's one of my favorites ever. What's frustrating is that he has spent 20 years trying to be something he's not way too often. He still can make great music. There were some great tracks on Life Is Good. But he seems completely unaware of his own strengths.

So yes, his influence and respect make him more relevant than Prodigy. That was a bad word choice. But Prodigy understands who he is and puts himself in better position to succeed. Nas is fighting a battle that won't ever be won.

In short, Nas is too talented to have had this career.

ill nik-A 05-11-2015 04:51 PM

Jadakiss has the same syndrome tbh

Certain 05-11-2015 04:54 PM

Truth. I never would have guessed in 2000 that a Styles P album (A Gangster and a Gentleman) would be the LOX solo album I like the most.

Inno 05-11-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill nik-A (Post 481385)
Jadakiss has the same syndrome tbh

Nah im a huge jada fan

But i gotta say none of his albums are as a whole, dope


His first album was probably his best


I personally prefer sheek louch

ill nik-A 05-11-2015 05:11 PM

Yea Jada can't put a dope album out

Which I think is ridiculous considering talent


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