Originally Posted by Loast (Post 83430)

please explain to me how 03 changed the game... I was just thinking bout this the other day.. Did they change it by having people who are athletic, can high fly but can't shoot worth a damn...
the whole finals they gave lebron and dwade 5 ft. worth of space to shoot and they were scared to pull...


now tell me in the 84 or 96 class.., Name 1 motherfucker from the 84 or 96 class that you would give 3 ft of space to shoot...?
i remember when you had to have the full package to make it to the league.. ur Chris Webbers, Charles Barkleys, Hakeem, Karl Malone, Bird, MAgic..
Shaq is just way too big.. he dnt have to shoot..
but now, if your a quick guard that dunk... u'll make it
russel westbrooks, john walls, derek rose(freakish game but can't shoot) list goes on..

but if i chose it would be the 96 class all around.. but 84 class had better Talent wise

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83497)

You said it. They gave them 5 ft of room, like it or not thats what is now.

Although people like curry and thompson along with gearge kyrie Erving.
Are not part of that draft class, They are the result of that foundation.

Carmelo.

The ball is being scored AND handle by the perimeter players now.

Lebron an wade though fhey dont shoot amazingly...they change the defense.

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 83502)

id like to of seen cats like lebron play against the likes of laimbeer n shit back in the day it'd be a different ball game

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83510)

with the same skill set.

Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 83503)

that doesn't make much sense tho, because dudes played like this before LeBron

Lebron is 69 270 and moves like a pg. cool. but Shaq didn't "change the game" did he?

Penny didn't neither. and wouldn't have had he stayed healthy

its just sometimes you have freakish athlete's, but not necessarily changing the game

Allen Iverson changed the game yes or no? and he isn't even the best from his own draft class




And if LeBron was drafted in 96 he would have never been MVP, not with his skill set

he actually doesn't know how to play basketball imo, you'll see it more as he gets older

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83510)

You cabt judge that shit tho..it was a different game

Much rougher, more physical..lebron now wasnt taught to play the game that way..so of course people like barkley lambirt would dominanted him.

Now if lebron would of beeb born/drafted in that era, with the same skill set.
He would still be lebron

Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 83512)

LeBron has little skill set outside of athleticism imo

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83518)

I honestly think hes better made for post up basketball.
One on one against the basket like jordan used to do and so
Many others from that era.

Hes big strong and best of all fast...come on man u honestly think
Penny could hold down lebron?

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83525)

Penny was the shit.

But lebron would of been a force.

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83531)

So it goes back to my point.

You xabt compare different eras.

Perfect example.

Hibbert and Randolph.

Now are above average players.

If they would played in that era they would be sick.
But thats only because thats the style they play now.
They where taught to play like that.

Lebron is new era..fast break era. ..its a different game bro

Different skill sets for each era.

But honestly believe lebrons physical would carry him through

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 83533)

I agree its a different game. I ain't disputing your entire arguement tbh. I know its hard to say who would actually be what in a different time zone but shit speculation is a great thing lol


imo its alot more sensative n sisified now. I was watching an old school game the other day it was with isaiah and laimbeer when detroit won there titles and basketball was so much doper then

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83536)

Dont get me wrong dude..I hate the fucking foul callimg.

Unless your left alone to the basket its never clean lol.

I agree basketball was tougher back then..but better?

Thats ups for interpretation.

Some say todays game is more exciting

Old scholl heads says.

Like eddie said lol..these players cant play real basketball.

So I mean lol it us what it is

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83547)

But is it bad basketball?

I think its the evolution of the game with society

Back im the 80s niggas wasnt politically correct
People where gritty and more jobs where still here in america
So had more hardworkinh people....

Now a days niggas is soft and can make money sitting behind a comp.
Not saying people like that dont earn they're way.
But its a different mentality.

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83567)

Lol so ur saying hack a shaq is a good thing for the game?

And I know they applied it to others..I never denied that he didnt chamge the game.

But so did the small era..witch in my opinion started around 02 03.


Carmelo is the penny of today.

With better defense.

Point is...

You xant compare eras.

Outside of
Jordan
Magic
And lebron.

I think those players could play in each others eras

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83578)

Lol u know kevin garnett did it first.

No one dislikes him infact hes a "warrior" fuck outchea

Originally Posted by Beyond (Post 83621)

I knew as soon as I seen the thread title it would be mostly cHeat fans riding the '03 class.

LOL @ the Melo hype in this thread. He's made it out of the first round ONE TIME in his career.

Stop it.

I think I seen some cHeat fan say Bronze is a good post up player, LMAO. He only really posted up one game in these whole play offs well against Paul George because the Pacers were letting him go one on one and giving him 20 dribbles. After that game, he was a complete non-threat in the post for the remainder of the post season.

Leonard and Diaw bodied him in the finals for most of the games. Only reason he was even averaging 17 PPG is because he would go to work in garbage time after the Spurs pulled their starters. SMH. Dude was really averaging 13 PPG without all that garbage time work.

What an embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 83707)

Your crazy if you think shaq didnt have a big enough impact to do that.

Either way lebron will end up with 8 rings.

Strck

I feel you lol.

Wall lookimg good tho