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God Of War 02-15-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276093)
Yes i would but i see u avoided my point. I am addressing a trending issue that is going on in florida tho the trend seems tp have stopped since he was found guilty. 17 year old black males getting shot down unarmed. I know there is issues on both sides.

a kid beating someones head in got shot

a bunch of kids out being dumb as fuck one of them got shot

claimed they had a gun, it isnt uncommon for them to think they show someone a gun and it just scare the guy and he leave they wasnt expecting him to have a gun of his own

the only trend i see is the fact that you can call racism on anyhting and when you do , it automatically makes it national news i also see the trend of screaming racism on every fucking thing

King Karaoke 02-15-2014 07:56 PM

Hi...

I know I said that arguing abt this online is pointless but Zimmerman could've defended himself in another way...
especially since hes an amateur boxer all of the sudden...
Your brother was a career criminal and u cry about him getting killed by police yet a black kid gets killed for listening to rap and u say it was justified...
smh...
I don't get it...

Bye...

TYSON 02-15-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 276120)
a kid beating someones head in got shot

a bunch of kids out being dumb as fuck one of them got shot

claimed they had a gun, it isnt uncommon for them to think they show someone a gun and it just scare the guy and he leave they wasnt expecting him to have a gun of his own

the only trend i see is the fact that you can call racism on anyhting and when you do , it automatically makes it national news i also see the trend of screaming racism on every fucking thing

In your crusade u showed u got a lil racism in u. The verdict is guilty right yet u still because of stereotypes believe they probably did flash a gun lol just like i still think Zimmerman instigated the altercation on racial premises that lead to trayvons death. U know what i think i am bias because its a black men but also i am addressing the illusion that white are living in. There is racism still out there even in the judicial system. U dismiss these claims so that u feel good about overcoming past mistakes and yes we have came a very long way. But to act like black people are exaggerating racial injustice is wrong its still out there u wouldn't know cause u are not black. It didnt die like u want to believe. I dont control what the media puts out so im not gon touch that.

Witty 02-15-2014 07:58 PM

Just get rid of the guns.

TYSON 02-15-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 276128)
Just get rid of the guns.

No i need my gun. It hasn't been fired once tho which i need to go to a gun range and let it bust a couple nuts. I need it just in case somebody tries to break in the crib and im not there or its more then one etc.

TYSON 02-15-2014 08:10 PM

What the hell is a peephole?

Witty 02-15-2014 08:13 PM

lol then don't be surprised when kids get shot, because you 'need' your gun.

I don't have a gun, grew up in a warzone, a literal battle ground...never been shot, because nobody can just go buy a gun, and the people who do have guns used them to fight the other people with guns. Kids weren't shooting kids because kids did not have any access to guns.

Nobody needs a gun, you want a gun...so don't complain when things like this happen.

TYSON 02-15-2014 08:20 PM

I get what u saying witty. But the country i live in has guns everywhere so yes i "need" a gun. There is too many in my house that i will give my life to see live another day i will not let anything happen to them without me putting up as much of a fight as i can. 8 kids no older then 10 and two elderly women so i will protect with whatever's available.

TYSON 02-15-2014 08:22 PM

Also their all white lol

Witty 02-15-2014 08:29 PM

If nobody had guns they wouldn't be everywhere.

uh-oh 02-15-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276080)
U wouldnt think he ditched a gun if he wasnt black.

i don't think he ditched a gun.

i'm saying its possible he could have. you are the one viewing this as a race issue and you are projecting your problems with race, onto me.

TYSON 02-15-2014 08:35 PM

Not knocking your logic but i would say 80% of the people with guns feel the same way i feel about having them so i dont see it ever happening

uh-oh 02-15-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 276100)
yeah but how is you caring about it gonna change it?

they do what they want, they will make little changes here and there so people don't realise they are being fucked in the ass and start rioting, but if they wanna do something it will be done, regardless of what u think.

This is why i just care about space and stuff, cuz humans haven't ruined space...yet.

this is america bro, i don't know how things work in ireland, being as you guys are basically a vassal to a real nation.

but in america we vote to put laws in, and to take them out. if the people in florida had a problem with the stand your ground law, they can vote to have it removed. they are a sovereign state under the united states of america.

people talking about and voicing there opinions, leads to people forming opinions which they use when they vote.

the local and state levels are just about the only place your vote still actually matters

TYSON 02-15-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276144)
i don't think he ditched a gun.

i'm saying its possible he could have. you are the one viewing this as a race issue and you are projecting your problems with race, onto me.

Maybe, but it seems like u trying to mask racial prejudice with cultural prejudice to ignore the fact that there is still racism out there..

God Of War 02-15-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276127)
In your crusade u showed u got a lil racism in u. The verdict is guilty right yet u still because of stereotypes believe they probably did flash a gun lol just like i still think Zimmerman instigated the altercation on racial premises that lead to trayvons death. U know what i think i am bias because its a black men but also i am addressing the illusion that white are living in. There is racism still out there even in the judicial system. U dismiss these claims so that u feel good about overcoming past mistakes and yes we have came a very long way. But to act like black people are exaggerating racial injustice is wrong its still out there u wouldn't know cause u are not black. It didnt die like u want to believe. I dont control what the media puts out so im not gon touch that.

of course you call someone racist, first line of defense isnt it?

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King Karaoke (Post 276126)
Hi...

I know I said that arguing abt this online is pointless but Zimmerman could've defended himself in another way...
especially since hes an amateur boxer all of the sudden...
Your brother was a career criminal and u cry about him getting killed by police yet a black kid gets killed for listening to rap and u say it was justified...
smh...
I don't get it...

Bye...

a career criminal how? when did i ever say that?


i never said it was justified, is aid dunn got sentance for zimmerman, people scream racism way way way before they should.. of you dont like it then thats your fault

if i got a gun and someone pulls a gun or flashes one at me in the middle of an arguement, guess whats going to happen?


how about all the spanish/white kids who got killed by other races? thats ok karaoke cuz they wasnt black?

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 276160)
of course you call someone racist, first line of defense isnt it?

Lol GOW u got what wanted out of what i said i understand i do it sometimes myself. Do some black folks do that? Yes, u happy? But do u really think they all crying wolf? It does happen.

uh-oh 02-15-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276150)
Maybe, but it seems like u trying to mask racial prejudice with cultural prejudice to ignore the fact that there is still racism out there..

nah im sure every member of netcees, let alone the world knows racism is alive

my main problem with it is that these things get portrayed by race from the beginning

my thing is follow facts, i mean people are still saying he killed people because they listened to rap music

people are ignorant, we live in a time of headlines and facebook and people regurgitating what others say instead of actually looking at facts and forming there own opinions

my opinion is this dude is dangerous. he drank, he drove, and he shot at people after an argument. he should be taken off the streets

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276168)
nah im sure every member of netcees, let alone the world knows racism is alive

my main problem with it is that these things get portrayed by race from the beginning

my thing is follow facts, i mean people are still saying he killed people because they listened to rap music

people are ignorant, we live in a time of headlines and facebook and people regurgitating what others say instead of actually looking at facts and forming there own opinions

my opinion is this dude is dangerous. he drank, he drove, and he shot at people after an argument. he should be taken off the streets

thats my thing, and i hear alot bout this case its my county,

except my opinion is if they cant prove them kids didnt have a gun they cant prove it wasnt out of a self defense

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276167)
Lol GOW u got what wanted out of what i said i understand i do it sometimes myself. Do some black folks do that? Yes, u happy? But do u really think they all crying wolf? It does happen.

my thing is it happens every where

by crying racism instantly its taken the fact off there is kids out there dying no matter what race and color that is getting over looked because the media would rather focus on a color instead of an issue

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:12 PM

So GOW do u think the jasper,tx case has nothing to do with race? The interracial couple whose husband was found slashed up. The cops so called have no leads yet the fbi found that the case wasnt being approached with any urgency by local authority.

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276172)
So GOW do u think the jasper,tx case has nothing to do with race? The interracial couple whose husband was found slashed up. The cops so called have no leads yet the fbi found that the case wasnt being approached with any urgency by local authority.

I never said some cases doesnt, i said every case doesnt

do you think no white people is killed because of race?

how about spanish people?


how many oyu see in the news?


calling racism right away because of the color of some ones skin is absurd and taking the focus off what is important

uh-oh 02-15-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 276170)
thats my thing, and i hear alot bout this case its my county,

except my opinion is if they cant prove them kids didnt have a gun they cant prove it wasnt out of a self defense

word. in my city some black kids killed an old white ww2 veteran while trying to rob him. they're even shaking down the witnesses in the case and shit who are testifying against them.

its not portrayed as a race thing, its just portrayed as murder. but if two white kids robbed and killed one of the tuskegee airmen people would lose there shit lol

but the point is, every crime and situation is different. yet the media wants you to believe that everytime a white man kills a black man its because he was BLACK. not because he's a murderer nah he's a RACIST murderer

im sure some are, i just dont think its the determining factor in alot of cases

Witty 02-15-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276147)
this is america bro, i don't know how things work in ireland, being as you guys are basically a vassal to a real nation.

but in america we vote to put laws in, and to take them out. if the people in florida had a problem with the stand your ground law, they can vote to have it removed. they are a sovereign state under the united states of america.

people talking about and voicing there opinions, leads to people forming opinions which they use when they vote.

the local and state levels are just about the only place your vote still actually matters

Yeah but what I'm saying is, people can vote and get things changed but they are just gonna switch the system up and find new ways to fuck u just as hard.

Also, America isn't all that good really.

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 276170)
thats my thing, and i hear alot bout this case its my county,

except my opinion is if they cant prove them kids didnt have a gun they cant prove it wasnt out of a self defense

Circumstantial evidence hold very little stance in court.

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276182)
Circumstantial evidence hold very little stance in court.

but i think leaving the crime scene, going to a parking lot, coming back should be looked at as "ok wtf happened" dont you think?

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276178)
but the point is, every crime and situation is different. yet the media wants you to believe that everytime a white man kills a black man its because he was BLACK. not because he's a murderer nah he's a RACIST murderer

thats exactly what im trying to say bro, and im also adding that it makes people get convicted differently based off of that

uh-oh 02-15-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 276181)
Yeah but what I'm saying is, people can vote and get things changed but they are just gonna switch the system up and find new ways to fuck u just as hard.

Also, America isn't all that good really.

america is as good as it gets man

not saying its the best (it is), other countries are good too. yours is one of them. but yours is great britain. not ireland. you ask us to give up our guns. why? because your people gave up yours? you talk of wars being fought in your streets, yet you dont see a need for having a gun?

you are delusional. i don't blame you. i blame your countrymen.

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276178)
word. in my city some black kids killed an old white ww2 veteran while trying to rob him. they're even shaking down the witnesses in the case and shit who are testifying against them.

its not portrayed as a race thing, its just portrayed as murder. but if two white kids robbed and killed one of the tuskegee airmen people would lose there shit lol

but the point is, every crime and situation is different. yet the media wants you to believe that everytime a white man kills a black man its because he was BLACK. not because he's a murderer nah he's a RACIST murderer

im sure some are, i just dont think its the determining factor in alot of cases

I get what yall saying of course but America did this to itself. Countless muders went without justice toward the black communities, countless. Its like a man cheated on his wife and they get back together. She will forever think he may cheat again and bring it up when an argument rises lol not the best analogy but im sure my point got across. Is it a healthy transition no but hopefully it gets better.

uh-oh 02-15-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276195)
I get what yall saying of course but America did this to itself. Countless muders went without justice toward the black communities, countless. Its like a man cheated on his wife and they get back together. She will forever think he may cheat again and bring it up when an argument rises lol not the best analogy but im sure my point got across. Is it a healthy transition no but hopefully it gets better.

word we're all on the same page now i think

now lets talk about how america is awesome

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276199)
word we're all on the same page now i think

now lets talk about how america is awesome

it is a pretty great country isnt it?

least we're not canada is my motto! lmao

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 276183)
but i think leaving the crime scene, going to a parking lot, coming back should be looked at as "ok wtf happened" dont you think?

Yea but i think him going home and going about his business till the next day made that not even compare to them leaving shit he was dying in the car of course u gon leave the area where he got blasted but thats just my opinion.

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276203)
Yea but i think him going home and going about his business till the next day made that not even compare to them leaving shit he was dying in the car of course u gon leave the area where he got blasted but thats just my opinion.

but ima go to a hospital rofl

and i agree the dude is whacked out his mind

im just syaing the case isnt being looked at how it should at all

Witty 02-15-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 276193)
america is as good as it gets man

not saying its the best (it is), other countries are good too. yours is one of them. but yours is great britain. not ireland. you ask us to give up our guns. why? because your people gave up yours? you talk of wars being fought in your streets, yet you dont see a need for having a gun?

you are delusional. i don't blame you. i blame your countrymen.


Northern Ireland is part of Ireland, it is in the name...Ireland consists of two countries, but they are both Ireland.

Great Britain is a group of countries.

Since we gave up our guns things have got much more peacful, much less crime, less people dying.

It has been nothing but good for my country, so I don't know what you're talking about....Northern Ireland is the MAIN example of how putting weapons down works, it has been a huge success. There are still those who want it to continue but their numbers are very very small, and they have lost the support of the people. The number of people dying is nowhere even close to what it once was.

I'm don't really care if America doesn't give up their guns, I'm saying don't be surprised if kids keep getting killed because you are paranoid and think people are out to get you.

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:33 PM

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God Of War 02-15-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276203)
Yea but i think him going home and going about his business till the next day made that not even compare to them leaving shit he was dying in the car of course u gon leave the area where he got blasted but thats just my opinion.

just like this bro

he got 3 counts of attempted murder\

he got dismissed on the count of murder for killing jordan right?

rofl ok if he tried to kill the other 3 then hefucking tried to kill jordan right? or if he didnt try to kill jordan then it wasnt attempted murder for the other three


u see what im saying? that shit is fucking weird and makes no sense and all the bullshit is whats fucking up cases from really being handled with justice

Witty 02-15-2014 09:38 PM

Also America is not as good as it gets....they are farrrr behind in a lot of areas, healthcare, education, the fight against poverty, murder rates, etc etc.

You're feeding into a lie if you think your country is the greatest country on earth, it is the most powerful, there is a difference, great countries look after their people from top to bottom, the rich and the poor....America, Ireland, the UK etc can all learn a lot from Scandinavian countries, I've said it before but they really do countries and human rights better than anyone, they look after their own.

TYSON 02-15-2014 09:41 PM

How the fuck he get convicted of attempted murder on the other three but not guilty for murder or anything for the man who actually got killed? Yea thats fishy

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 276225)
Also America is not as good as it gets....they are farrrr behind in a lot of areas, healthcare, education, the fight against poverty, murder rates, etc etc.

You're feeding into a lie if you think your country is the greatest country on earth, it is the most powerful, there is a difference, great countries look after their people from top to bottom, the rich and the poor....America, Ireland, the UK etc can all learn a lot from Scandinavian countries, I've said it before but they really do countries and human rights better than anyone, they look after their own.

in what form of education because in higher education there not behind

God Of War 02-15-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 276233)
How the fuck he get convicted of attempted murder on the other three but not guilty for murder or anything for the man who actually got killed? Yea thats fishy

thats the shit im talking bout bro, it makes no fucking sense, n its the media n shit calling it racism that is doing it...


the dude killed a child...color has nothing to do with it u know what i mean?


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