Originally Posted by veritas (Post 721326)

Life starts at conception.

Originally Posted by Qualm (Post 721332)

naw. The only reason people feel pain is because of their brain, there are people with neurological malfunctions that cause them to not even feel pain, so you could shoot/stab them and they won’t even notice. That poses the question “is it still unethical to hurt them?” And I say ‘yes’ because there’s still the affect of the womb and the affect of possibly dying and regardless of whether they feel pain, they may still want to have their life. Why do they want life? Because their brain tells them to. It’s a biological imperative that developed through thousands of years of evolution where people fear death and want life. Which makes sense, because any species that didn’t would’ve already died out.

But to ultimately understand that the only reason humans desire life/fear death is because neurologically they’re preconditioned to is the key. A baby that hasn’t formed a brain or who isn’t cognizant of their existence can’t desire life or fear death, they’re nothing but an inanimate object.

Saying life begins at conception is stupid af. Life only begins when a baby can neurologically process it, which means that a baby being forced into an impoverished home that can’t sustain a baby becomes unethical the moment it’s born. It’s essentially saying “we’re going to destroy this inanimate object” vs. “we’re going to force this cognizant human being to live their entire life in a home where they’re not wanted”. Option B is unequivocally the unethical one

But the more important issue brings us back to the trolley problem. The world is overpopulated, and we can disagree on the timespan but you’re ignorant if you don’t acknowledge that the expansion of humans threatens the entire human race, and anyone who condones families having 4+ children are choosing to kill the 5 over the 1.

Now sure, there are more elegant ways to implement birth control but nobody on the religious side of that fence are proposing those ideals

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721336)

Only in 2019 can someone like you exist

You’re a moron, and as a pro-lifer I wish you were aborted

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721337)

so spermatoza is not living?
They wriggle and swim?

Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 721261)

It's Irish as fuck, bro.

Originally Posted by Exis (Post 721354)

Then I will close my cake hole lol, yo is you the Badweather from RF? If so, now I get the comedic shit...you were always droppin' one liners there, I wish you well on your 5 minute set bro...I remember you could really spit some heat in a verse also.

Your shit on what Geno posted was dope, kudos.

Originally Posted by boof (Post 721164)

antivaxxer: anti flu vax

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 721333)

I mean you can’t just say that because look at zelph who was carried to term

Originally Posted by Amen (Post 721371)

I really wish Lenox would just find you already and beat you up.

Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 721364)

Thanks, my guy. I am Badweather! I haven't been on RF in a long long time. Like...years. the last track I posted there was this joint called "Killing Me," which was recorded like 4 years ago.

Was your username Exis over there too?

Originally Posted by Qualm (Post 721145)

ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name: Diode

Do you believe in God: Undecided

Religion: Raised episcopal, presently agnostic

Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: That highly depends on your qualification of "life"

Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes

Should gays be allowed to marry: Yes

Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: Yes

Should prostitution be legalized: Yes (and regulated)

Are women equal to men: This is too broad of a question (no pun intended)

Are you

creationist: no
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: yes
anti-immigration: no (though this is also entirely too broad)
pro-guns: with heavy regulation

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721459)

In Australia we have legalized brothels, but its illegal to solicit on the street.
I think it's all illegal in the states. @Exis

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721461)

Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 721463)

there was no defined scope, so assumption was "if in any case you support it, then say yes"

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721464)

I think he was trying to separate the abortion part with the two questions

The death penalty I feel you can’t half support

In a world with machine learning video enhancements and dna being easily placed anywhere, I just don’t see how someone can support the state choosing when someone can be killed like cattle while the state pays for their housing for 3-10 years

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 721466)

methinks your understanding of how far technology has gotten is a bit misplaced.

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721469)

Meknows it’s not

I’m 3 months from being a post grad comp sci student stop gaslighting my tech knowledge on netcees you tit

Take away the deep fakes aspect that you’re in denial of though and just in general. You’re supporting a slow process to eventually taking a life that might be innocent and if they are guilty, putting someone out of their misery. Just seems like a bad idea from all angles. I’m sure it’s emotionally motivated for most people, cus no one wants murderers and rapist around. Just sad people are more about their own protection and safety than that of others to such an extent they support mass genocide and hangings yet think we live in a new civil world that others are denying as worth the progress.

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 721471)

I'm not gaslighting a goddamned thing - deepfakes aren't even remotely close to the level where the average podunk police department is out there providing false evidence via doctored video. You know how machine learning works Mr. Post-Grad. It needs data to work. High quality data. Which also says nothing of audio, which is even further behind/implausible for the average criminal. Nor can they "plant dna evidence" that would survive a trial and rounds of appeals. Fact. Fact, fact, fact.

So yes, dear Knucklehead, if a perpetrator is 100% undoubtedly caught on camera or in person or hell, pleads guilty with no question about whatever act worthy of death they committed, I am for execution.

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721461)

Surprised by all the support for the death penalty

Seems to go hand in hand with support for mass genocide too so I guess people really just don’t value life that isn’t theirs

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 721472)

Ugh

These are the post I used to fight you on, but I like getting along with you. I know you don’t mean to be overly egotistical it’s just your daily mindset to sell sell sell

That’s not how most states (if any?) handle the death penalty though. General convictions with evidence that can and has been wrong go into it too. It’s also a lot of money invested. I’d rather have them in gen pop and more likely to have a worse time and maybe even get got on the prisoners dime.

Originally Posted by Qualm (Post 721479)

out of curiosity, what's your position on animal life/meat. Not gonna start a debate from this, just wondering.

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721493)

Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721493)

Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 721493)

Personally I couldnt give a fuck about human life.
So.. hearing about mass-killings, natural disasters, poverty...etc..
I dont care, the more morons die the better.
We are a desacration on this planet and should be punished