i liked the movie, btw. t'challa's dialogue with his father in the ancestral plain lit with a purple-sky, erik killmonger's mirrored scene with his pops where the same sky can only be seen through shitty project windows, and the final dialogue between the two cousins were all dope.

but there are a lot of problems with it, and with the (overwhelmingly) positive reaction from its demograph. no one thinks for themselves anymore it's depressing.

It was sadly only just a movie. But 90% of the population doesn't read or travel enough to formulate an educated perspective on the world. But they do watch television, go to the movies and listen to music. Three forms of media that have historically been used to condition the mind via social engineering. For instance, there is a reason it was once called tv "programing". In any case, showing strong and prominent African Americans on screen. In a positive light. Does have a physiological effect on young and impressionable minds. There is no doubt what Eng said is true. It is a Disney film after all. A company that is at the pinnacle of subversive and subliminal imagery and messaging. However, that is only one side of the coin. Because Black Panther (on a microcosmic level), much like the tenure of former President Obama, may not be perfect, may even have a hidden agenda, but the superficial symbology of what it represent for black and brown people the world over is a powerful thing. Art has long imitated life, but it seems over the last century or so, in many instances, the opposite has been true. Thus saying, the more movies we have like Black Panther the more the world's view of certain subgroups of people will start to change. Of course this argument is independent of economic and political inequalities. I'm just speaking on social perspectives in terms of media influence that can have a real effect on altering stereotypical points of view.

If one wants to change the world he must first start by changing the way that people look at it. Weapons and armies can only do so much. Men can eventually be defeated. Ideas. Well, ideas are a harder thing to extinguish.

Excellent point.

No love for Logan? Ouch.

i echo bagga....'let uniforms worn by african negro baseball teams were dirty and a metaphor for dirt but then that all changed when the fire nation attacked (white ppl) it was thought proving and also insightful towards the loss of resodocuall vultures who were out to eat flesh of blacks and browns alike..... the americanization of all nations listed worldwide is a local tradition like christmas and evangelism..... towards equality at the price of a chili dog and neglecting as good value at family dollar... it wasn't that u not deep it's just u not deep thinka

I mentioned this the last time I saw a thread about BP.

Word.

Annihilated

Logan is top 5.
Blade is as well.
I think I'm in the minority, but I always thought Constantine was pretty good for a comic flick.

Spiderman 2 w toby is top5 an always gets slept on

infinity wars gonna be Goat tho.

but Winter solider is the best marvel movie fuck wat ya heard boi.

Gotta agree with ncgs on Winter Soldier. Bucky was a fucking G in that shit too.

The first Guardians of the galaxy is up there too tho tbh. That shit was what new Star Wars wish it could be in space genre.

to me, it's really a matter of what type of movie you like best. Like, the first 2 thor movies took themselves seriously, but Ragnarok was funny af. But, cottdamn bros, Hulk vs Thor in the arena was childhood dream come true and it was even better than I could dream up.

Winter Soldier was a spy thriller type flick like Jason Bourne or Mission Impossible but better.

I ain't seen Black Panther yet. When I was about to see it, the NAACP was renting entire screening rooms for private viewings and I was like, nah, this has gotten too silly, I will wait.

The only real beef ive seen ppl having with it was women saving the day like the sjws love now and some of the cg looking dated.

that last Star Wars movie was sjw cringe trash city.

not a deep thinker it is then. The armoured rhino's metaphor was touching though.

Lol smh

But in all seriousness I don't know what I really got from it.

I mean the "we don't get involved in anyone's affairs" seemed like a dig at America world police. Then when they concluded they should be getting involved it felt they only said that they shouldn't get involved so they could say they really should I.e they do the right thing.

The deepest bit was that they had to create a fake country so there would be a advanced and wealthy country in Africa. I think life's a bit deeper than the movie the movie just scraped the surface.

I think the best thing about the movie is that it sparked dialogue. It's interesting to see the different points of view and interpretations people had about it.

Bruh I dunno why Toby gets so much hate spider 2 was fucking awesome. And @ACTIVATE SELF Constantine is one of my favorite movies. It has one of the greatest cameos I think in movie history. The guy who played the devil dam near made it s classic for me lol. And John wick never disappoints

It doesn’t matter what or how you feel about the movie.

When you see little black and brown kids excited to see soem one that looks like them on tv and they aren’t playing a rapper, gang banger, poorr, janitor roll. THAT is what is most important thImg about making movies like these.

Representation goes a long way. It’s why shows like the Cosby show and this movie are so important.

Bruh, when I think of movie devils that's like the first thing that comes to mind.

What about blankman tho guys?

Lil nerdy black kid/dude was a super hero. Getting bitch slapped and taking out people with his own inventions.

Showed there are smart minorities out there who can achieve anything if they put their mind to it.

Lol STFU guys. It's a racist movie.

Yeh this tbh, what I think is redundant. The fact that a lot of people who didn't feel represented do now is more important.

I haven’t seen black panther yet, but I have seen some black people that I know, that seem to be really proud of the portrayal of their people in this film. But, it’s all a fictional story and nothing is grounded in actual history, right? I thought it was interesting to take that view, but again, I’m white so I can’t really speak on it. I just found it interesting.

How is it a racist movie. God I can’t wait for this

I hate to be the bearer of bad news (potentially) but the rumors are that the movie follows this recipe almost exactly.

Tom Hardy has since tried to debunk the rumor but until we see it for ourselves, we won't know.

A lot of people thought there wasn't enough Joker in Suicide Squad and I thought it was way more than I expected to see him considering the source material.

Also as a stand alone movie - Constantine was/is still dope. However, considering I've since read Hellblazer and the new 52 run/Justice League Dark. I cannot accept anyone except Matt Ryan as THE Constantine now.

Onto the actual subject of the thread - Black Panther is definitely top 3. It's still too new to put it on top. I'd say Winter Soldier and Civil War then Black Panther followed by the first Avengers and first Guardians of the Galaxy to round out a top 5.


Still have hope for DC to turn their shared universe around. Maybe Flashpoint or Aquaman will save it.

Also for anyone who hasn't checked it out yet. Syfy's new show Krypton (kind of like a Superman/Man of Steel prequel) was pretty dope so far, and they did Brainiac justice.

(no idea if this is the right trailer because my internet is laggy rn)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szTKq7xVa_A

Anyone read any of rebirth?

co-sign constantine though. reeves the OG, peter 'arbruzzi' stormare's unforgettable cameo as the devil, weird as fuck androgynous gabriel and weisz's tight ass make a memorable, atypical film.

might rewatch that shit been a good decade.

Damn, the rumors surrounding Venom sound unfortunate. They also sound similar to how the first movie of the Spawn re-boot is expected to go.

Just saw it today. Was better than the typical Marvel film. Still kind of a slog to sit through, like all of them. Michael B. Jordan is usually good but was the least interesting performance. His character was supposed to be different from everyone but I thought it was awkwardly done. Daniel Kaluuya's character was a complete waste non-character who could've been cut from the movie with no loss. Boseman was fine, the main characters in these standalone Marvel films are all milquetoast, cardboard cut outs. He was fine. The leader of the Jabari tribe was funny. Female actors on average were pretty good. The use of Martin Freeman's character as the 'token' white guy was one of the more clever ideas the film had. The messaging and subtext was painted with a broad brush but at least it was trying to say something, which is more than, say, Ant Man or whatever the fuck. The fact that Killmonger's whole ideology and the fact he did win the throne(argument) for a hot minute exists in a Marvel film is pretty cool.

The entirely white crowd in the Fargo theater did not fully appreciate the colonizer remarks.

Anyone looking forward to "Black Lightning"?


Legit serious..

Yesss

Fuck this shit

In my heart i know they haven't done a carnage movie yet because they are taking the time to do it right. They still have dude with the globe head too they can still use. Spiderman had the coldest villains

I want a Thunder Cats movie.

thundercat culture is vastly under represented in mainstream Hollywood cinematography, agreed.

we need more Panthro's and less Di'caprio's

Still dead at Logan not even top 5

Idk if this was in response to my top 5 (or someone else's) but i didnt list Logan because its not part of the MCU. It'd definitely between #1/2 on a 20th Century Fox Marvel list. (Deadpool was pretty close to perfection so between that and Logan is the #1/#2 spots)