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uh-oh 02-24-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sour joog (Post 644285)
The problem is guns have changed. The changes produce different results. You could learn a lot from the guns.

The amendment isn't a reflection of the time we are living in. If you look at the lay of the land of those times. You had a reason for everyone to have guns before the right to them. Now your right to a gun comes before reason.

I'm not saying you should have guns or shouldn't, but you can't expect change without trying to do things differently. Just because you give an inch doesn't mean you'll lose a mile.

You gotta come up with something better than arming teachers though. That's idea is literally retarded

i agree things should be done differently, i just dont think banning guns is the answer

also i'm not for arming teachers, but i'm not deadset against a teacher who has a concealed carry being allowed to carry on the job.

i thought a good idea would be having a police officer on the premises of every school, but then news comes out there was one who was a coward and hid outside

to pretend there is a simple answer such as banning guns is what is stupid. its a complex issue that requires a complex solution. some restrictions could be part of that solution, like stricter mental health restrictions along with metal detectors and security etc. etc.

Witty 02-24-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 644287)
Any evidence of banning things working?

Australia. A bunch of mass shootings before banning automatic weapons and such. None since. One guy killed two people with hand guns, other than that, nothing. Gun crime in general has decreased dramatically. This ban was in 1996. And Australia at the time was every bit the gun loving country America still is.

Chyeahhh!!! 02-24-2018 03:16 PM

he speaks....
 
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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 644103)
Do people not understand that I can purchase an american made AK right now for 700 bucks. (americanized of course, in the sense its just semi auto but still fires 7.62s)

I am an AK guy to the core and this makes absolutely no sense. It's Americanized because it only shoots semi auto and 7.62's? You do realize that you have 3 cartridge platforms for the Kalashnikov including 7.62 x 39,, 7.62 x 54 ,, and the 5.45 right? ( Century Arms and DDI are the only manufacturers in the U.S making AK's completely with American made components that I know of. Rifle Dynamics are planning to do the same but haven't yet. Otherwise that leaves the rest of the AK market being supplied by importations of fully auto and semi auto AK's (Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian to name a few). So an AK being Americanized by it only shooting 7.62 and it being semi auto is about the dumbest thing you can say about an AK. Tax stamps and licensing are all you need to shoot full auto, and to my knowledge a full auto AK made entirely in the USA will not cost 700 lmao

uh-oh 02-24-2018 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!! (Post 644296)
I am an AK guy to the core and this makes absolutely no sense. It's Americanized because it only shoots semi auto and 7.62's? You do realize that you have 3 cartridge platforms for the Kalashnikov including 7.62 x 39,, 7.62 x 54 ,, and the 5.45 right? ( Century Arms and DDI are the only manufacturers in the U.S making AK's completely with American made components that I know of. Rifle Dynamics are planning to do the same but haven't yet. Otherwise that leaves the rest of the AK market being supplied by importations of fully auto and semi auto AK's (Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian to name a few). So an AK being Americanized by it only shooting 7.62 and it being semi auto is about the dumbest thing you can say about an AK. Tax stamps and licensing are all you need to shoot full auto, and to my knowledge a full auto AK made entirely in the USA will not cost 700 lmao

i was referring to a century arms AK, 699.99

its "americanized" meaning its semi auto, not full auto. i'm not inventing terminology and shit lol.

i pointed out it still fires 7.62's because alot of people buy the bullshit ones that are styled to look like ak's but fire 22 rounds and shit.

i never stated the 700 dollar one was full auto, calm down buddy. i was pointing out the hypocrisy of the left in wanting to ban a specific semi auto rifle while one that is just as good at killing people, if not better, would still be available

uh-oh 02-24-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 644291)
Australia. A bunch of mass shootings before banning automatic weapons and such. None since. One guy killed two people with hand guns, other than that, nothing. Gun crime in general has decreased dramatically. This ban was in 1996. And Australia at the time was every bit the gun loving country America still is.

lol

you understand that having to post this refutes the point i've bolded?

Chyeahhh!!! 02-24-2018 03:46 PM

he speaks....
 
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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 644311)
i was referring to a century arms AK, 699.99

its "americanized" meaning its semi auto, not full auto. i'm not inventing terminology and shit lol.

i pointed out it still fires 7.62's because alot of people buy the bullshit ones that are styled to look like ak's but fire 22 rounds and shit.

i never stated the 700 dollar one was full auto, calm down buddy. i was pointing out the hypocrisy of the left in wanting to ban a specific semi auto rifle while one that is just as good at killing people, if not better, would still be available

my bad bro.

Pakistani Hand Cannon 02-24-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 644269)
Psychological assessments seem like a rational idea. A gun is extremely dangerous in the wrong hands...I think more work needs to be done to keep them out of those hands.

the problem comes in discerning what the "wrong" hands are.

& if you're willing to put that moral decision in the hands of the government, you're a moron. point, blank, period.


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Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 644190)
As soon as u ban one gun it opens the door to ban more.

this.

totalitarian tiptoe niggas.

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smh though, & niggas really buying the mass shooting narratives huh?

funny. get told "you cant have guns" by people with all the guns. what could possible go wrong. no agendas here. its all for the safety of the people right? don't even entertain anything else other than what your spoon fed.

its simple. everyone bares arms. or nobody does. anything else is a recipe for disaster.

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also, on a sidenote, you niggas talkin about "rights". rights are something you're inherently born with. allow anyone to dictate what your "rights" are & you give them authority over your being.

Witty 02-24-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 644312)
lol

you understand that having to post this refutes the point i've bolded?

What?

Finnydot 02-24-2018 04:49 PM

Look at London. They have the amount of shootings in a year that NY has in a day. Take the guns out of the hands of the cops and the people may give theirs up too. As long as cops got guns, streets won't give up theirs and vice versa.

Hearder Hearder 02-24-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Infinity Tha rellik (Post 644325)
Look at London. They have the amount of shootings in a year that NY has in a day. Take the guns out of the hands of the cops and the people may give theirs up too. As long as cops got guns, streets won't give up theirs and vice versa.

Yo you’re fuckihg retarded

uh-oh 02-24-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 644318)
What?

yea i didn't put that across well. seemed CONCISE and dare i say, witty at the time of posting. but reading back its gobbledygook

it was an attempt to say australia wasn't as gun loving as america because they had one mass shooting and hung it up.

Enbombz 02-24-2018 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugged (Post 644314)
its simple. everyone bares arms. or nobody does. anything else is a recipe for disaster.


I have to agree with this to a large extent and that's the position it finds itself in today.

Witty 02-24-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 644343)
yea i didn't put that across well. seemed CONCISE and dare i say, witty at the time of posting. but reading back its gobbledygook

it was an attempt to say australia wasn't as gun loving as america because they had one mass shooting and hung it up.

Nah they had many more before that one, that was just the last straw.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-24-2018 06:48 PM

You don’t understand the cultural climate of America brother witsworth

Witty 02-24-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 644363)
You don’t understand the cultural climate of America brother witsworth

I wouldn't expect to. I was just demonstrating that it is not without precedent.

As I said, I don't even disagree with the right to bear arms.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-24-2018 07:05 PM

I guess I should have said evidence of Americans properly banning something with good results lol forget how uncivilized we are sometimes

sral 02-24-2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 644194)
Thanks. I was waiting for uterus pond

lmao legit reminded me of that field of ponds guy that posted here

Destroyer 02-24-2018 07:36 PM

Yeah that dude was inarguably worse than barcotic actually

uh-oh 02-24-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty (Post 644361)
Nah they had many more before that one, that was just the last straw.

you sure? i know they slaughtered a bunch of aboriginals and shit, i guess it depends on the definition of mass shooting.

some people define it as when 3 or more people get shot in an incident.

like how people are defining "school shootings" as any time a gun goes off on school premises. when i read school shooting though im picturing columbine not a couple hoodlums running through the parking lot shooting at eachother after midnight

Diode 02-24-2018 08:10 PM

aks and ars and even lame tacticool .22 mossberg plink semiautos are good for punching paper/fun and nothing else

i enjoy shooting them and their variants but would trash them in a heartbeat if it means safer school for my kid

sorry if you suck with a bolt action rifle

uh-oh 02-24-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 644388)
aks and ars and even lame tacticool .22 mossberg plink semiautos are good for punching paper/fun and nothing else

they're pretty good at killing people too.

what are your thoughts on lever action?

im bout to get a henry 44. they're just too dope to my retarded mind. i'd still like to have a c308/ak/ar/mini14 or something though in case we get invaded/civilwar/zombie apocalypse pops off THO

not because its logical, but because i can

Geno 02-25-2018 02:19 AM

Im with u uh oh i need guns to. Just had this convo. Used to have guns. I no longer have any. If shit ever goes down id be fuckked. Who r we kidding.

I mean. Bags has a point in here though. The Guns issue will start the civil war. But the people cant win this civil war without them. Interesting concept.

I think all these school shooting are just fastforwarding to stripping us of guns faster and that they are staged and very intentionally aimed at schools and children to make mire people hop on the ohhh hey lets ban guns wagon.. Kinda like aeros fagit ass sounded early in this thread. So quick to jump on board huh aero? Open your fucking eyes idiot. Its all a bug show. A big trap. And people like you always take the bait. Take our guns and ability to fight back and were fucked against a govnmt takeover. But the government knows this already. Hell weve already gone and won the revolution once when we became america.. As bags said. Which is what the govnmt knows and is why they want r guns before it happens again. We must gather up arms. Grab our brewskis bitches and berrettas and set sail for the new world. Overthrow the us gvnmt and rebuild elsewhere!!!!

Enbombz 02-25-2018 05:16 AM

See a doctor.

Nick James 02-25-2018 05:21 AM

lmao

leave my dude geno alone

Hearder Hearder 02-25-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sour joog (Post 644460)
See a doctor.


Geno 02-25-2018 05:36 PM

I see doctors all the time. What am i looking for?

E Tha Real 02-25-2018 07:59 PM

I went to that high school, also instructed there & knew that coach. When these events take place in your backyard it changes how you view things. When your friends & family are teachers you fear for them. As well as law enforcement that put their lives on the line for senseless killing. I have strong ties to that community, I now live in NC. But I can truthfully say if you fear that banning AKs is the problem than you have a very interesting view on the value of a human life.

Amen 02-26-2018 06:41 AM

@Sour joog lives in the UK I believe talking about something he knows little to nothing about.

Culture plays a big role dude. Come to America so 1 - I can side line you and 2. So you can see/experience the culture before dropping your wack ass opinion, STFU.

Enbombz 02-26-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 644702)
@Sour joog lives in the UK I believe talking about something he knows little to nothing about.

Culture plays a big role dude. Come to America so 1 - I can side line you and 2. So you can see/experience the culture before dropping your wack ass opinion, STFU.

You'd get wrecked.

Dont be so ignorant.

Amen 02-26-2018 06:56 AM

LMAO, right.

Stfu, as I previously stated dick jockey.

Enbombz 02-26-2018 12:23 PM

Bag of dicks


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