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Amen 02-02-2018 12:24 PM

Des got 20 year on people?

He reaching 50 or in his 50's?

Enbombz 02-02-2018 12:25 PM

Easy.

Schadenfreude 02-02-2018 12:30 PM

Lol I'm pretty sure he was exaggerating, more like 10, 15 at most.

Witty 02-02-2018 01:00 PM

Jesus.

KennyCerealBowl 02-02-2018 01:02 PM

Well only God can judge me.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sour joog (Post 638906)
Idk but it's a starting point.

Being objective isnt so much about having your opinion. In fact it's the opposite really it's about looking at both sides. So I'm not too precious about my opinions, they change I have some basic fundamental beliefs on some things but the rest is fluid. Most people argue with a horse in the race and should be treated with suspicion. Those people are also least likely to be objective. For some it's a case of their beliefs/opinions are a massive part of their identity and take comfort in that identity. To change would be losing part of that, so they stubbornly cling onto it. People don't like to question themselves. It makes them feel unsure of themselves and the world around them. these self serving opinions/beliefs offer little value to anyone but the person themselves. Often lacking credibility.

There is a big issue people have within themselves. I used to think this way as well. Not being part of side a or b doesn't make you not have a side, it makes you part of side c. So thinking that way, how could we/you do better at making side c a compromise with all sides? And how do you handle there being no logical side to be part of?

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Genocide (Post 638939)
Depends.
Seriosuly. Not all of my pre defined views are set in atone its not always a hard task. Unless were talkin yhe more privitive idealw. Then nothing

shove a gun in my face and ill eat the muzzle.
Guzzle hollowtips. And spittem back in a bleeding puddle

Can you elaborate with less typos I'm not 100% sure how to continue this dialogue

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 638961)
You’ve persuaded me

Good, so back to where we were. How do you determine a source is reliable ?

Ghost1 02-02-2018 01:36 PM

3 pages since I went to lunch? shewy....didn't even read thread but knucl garnering views I see bravo


this book called the righteous mind is the perfect answer to this question tho, god bless/

Destroyer 02-02-2018 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 639002)
Good, so back to where we were. How do you determine a source is reliable ?

Oh I’m sorry, persuaded me to leave the thread

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 639007)
Oh I’m sorry, persuaded me to leave the thread

I want to be cool with you like the bear days. I feel like I've done a lot to change for the better here but you still hate on me for no real reason. Why man?

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 639003)
3 pages since I went to lunch? shewy....didn't even read thread but knucl garnering views I see bravo


this book called the righteous mind is the perfect answer to this question tho, god bless/

Thanks man I'll grab it this weekend

Destroyer 02-02-2018 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 639015)
I want to be cool with you like the bear days. I feel like I've done a lot to change for the better here but you still hate on me for no real reason. Why man?

I think I still harbor resentment from when I was EmpathE and you were demo

Otherwise, I have no idea

I’ll make an effort not to

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 02:02 PM

But we got a long after that

Was I overly mean to you as empathe lol?

Destroyer 02-02-2018 02:03 PM

I can’t really remember, I don’t think so
I think you were more full of yourself then perhaps

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 02:03 PM

@Ghost1 you follow Simon sinek at all?

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 639025)
I can’t really remember, I don’t think so
I think you were more full of yourself then perhaps

Oh I sure was

Destroyer 02-02-2018 02:10 PM

As far as your original query, my answer is life experience
It’s pretty much all I can hold on to without fear of being led by falsehood
It doesn’t account for bias, but can one even fully account for that?
I don’t think so. But no one can tell me I didn’t experience the things I have.
As such, it’s all that I will allow to mold my viewpoints

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 639031)
As far as your original query, my answer is life experience
It’s pretty much all I can hold on to without fear of being led by falsehood
It doesn’t account for bias, but can one even fully account for that?
I don’t think so. But no one can tell me I didn’t experience the things I have.
As such, it’s all that I will allow to mold my viewpoints

Awesome insight

With that being said have you travelled a lot? Or in general had deep relationships with people of other cultures if you can't afford to travel too much.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 02:14 PM

I think you and uh oh have very similar approaches to rationalizing views. Its sad those results make you two argue so much. As you said though, there's no way to truly trust an argument. Even your own.

Destroyer 02-02-2018 02:15 PM

I wouldn’t say I have traveled a lot but I grew up in three different areas in the US so I’ve been to enough places to know that people are more similar than they are different, regardless of where they hail from

Enbombz 02-02-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 638999)
There is a big issue people have within themselves. I used to think this way as well. Not being part of side a or b doesn't make you not have a side, it makes you part of side c. So thinking that way, how could we/you do better at making side c a compromise with all sides? And how do you handle there being no logical side to be part of?

That part c thing isn't really a thing. It's a bit like saying you don't believe in this God or that God so therefore atheism is religion in itself. If there is no logical side to take you can say that, it's still being objective.

Nick James 02-02-2018 03:11 PM

its gotta have 1k+ likes on fb

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unemployed (Post 639063)
its gotta have 1k+ likes on fb

How old are you?

Nick James 02-02-2018 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 639071)
How old are you?

obv that was a joke lol

u better believe its true tho out here.. if I got 7k ppl followin me n I post 'kylies a slut' guess what? kylies now a slut lol regardless if shes only slept wit 2 guys her whole life hoes will be like 'god shes such a slut' n niggas will be like 'lets call kylie man that bitch is a slut'

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 04:10 PM

So you're like, 19?

Amen 02-02-2018 04:10 PM

19 on papers already. SAD LIFE.

Nick James 02-02-2018 04:14 PM

sure

I dont feel like dealin with lame rebuttals rite now so sure.

Nick James 02-02-2018 04:35 PM

point was ppl follow popular opinion. they follow the consensus. alot of times the predefined views you are referring to originated from popular opinion anyways.. so indeed it makes sense it wuld be all that culd deviate it.

Amen 02-02-2018 04:53 PM

Maybe your generation does, idiot. I for certain do not.

Continue allowing social media to run your life and make decisions for you.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unemployed (Post 639091)
point was ppl follow popular opinion. they follow the consensus. alot of times the predefined views you are referring to originated from popular opinion anyways.. so indeed it makes sense it wuld be all that culd deviate it.

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 639102)
Maybe your generation does, idiot. I for certain do not.

Continue allowing social media to run your life and make decisions for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

Nick James 02-02-2018 05:08 PM

u just proved what I alrdy figured.. ur a rambling idiot

The accepted model of history and science was not only formed through popular opinion but also omits and refuses to place in curriculum anything that doesnt fit into guess what? Popular opinion.

ur actually such an oblivious moron that u prolly dont even see ur love for the patriots stems from what is popular and winning/trending.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-02-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 639036)
I wouldn’t say I have traveled a lot but I grew up in three different areas in the US so I’ve been to enough places to know that people are more similar than they are different, regardless of where they hail from

What areas? Just curious. And what about income differences? Have you spent a lot of time with poor people? (Really poor)

Amen 02-02-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unemployed (Post 639109)
u just proved what I alrdy figured.. ur a rambling idiot

The accepted model of history and science was not only formed through popular opinion but also omits and refuses to place in curriculum anything that doesnt fit into guess what? Popular opinion.

ur actually such an oblivious moron that u prolly dont even see ur love for the patriots stems from what is popular and winning/trending.

Wrong, idiot.

Destroyer 02-02-2018 05:16 PM

Tucson, Az. Philadelphia, Pa., and Indianapolis, IN

I have white trash relatives through marriage, that’s as much experience as I’ve had with “poor” people

Ghost1 02-02-2018 05:18 PM

I want to participate itt but it's just too much information to relay

Please

Every one

The righteous mind by Jonathan Haidt

Read it

Then return. You'd probably all like each other more after honestly.

Inno 02-02-2018 05:18 PM

But yo, how many of us here actually post with 100% of our true selves?

Nick James 02-02-2018 05:18 PM

u just proved to me u have no idea what ur talking about approximatly 5 mins ago

it must be nice floatin thru life like an ignorant horse fly

Ghost1 02-02-2018 05:19 PM

Pfft I paragraphed some cleft lipped fagot at work today off rip idgaf I been 100 on nc and irl since beyond was cooking his eggs w a laser beam coming out his eye.

Destroyer 02-02-2018 05:21 PM

I beat every one i face...no beyond


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