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Certain 05-11-2015 04:52 PM

I remember thinking Theater of the Mind was pretty bad, especially for Ludacris' standards, but I haven't listened probably since a few months after it came out.

1. Call Up the Homies (Co-starring The Game & Willy NorthPole) (Produced By Clinton Sparks)
02. Do the Right Thing (Co-starring Common & Spike Lee) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
03. Everybody Hates Chris (Co-starring Chris Rock) (Produced By Don Cannon)
04. I Do It for Hip-Hop (Co-starring Nas & Jay-Z) (Produced By WYLDFYER)
05. Last of a Dying Breed (Co-starring Lil Wayne) (Produced By WYLDFYER)
06. Let’s Stay Together (Produced By DJ Paul & Juicy J)
07. MVP (Produced By DJ Premier)
08. One More Drink (Co-starring T-Pain) (Produced By Trackmasters)
09. Southern Gangsters (Co-starring Playaz Circle & Rick Ross) (Produced By STREETRUNNER)
10. Undisputed (Co-starring Floyd Mayweather Jr.) (Produced By Don Cannon)
11. What Them Girls Like (Co-starring Chris Brown & Sean Garrett) (Produced By Darkchild)
12. Wish You Would (Co-starring T.I.) (Produced By DJ Toomp)
13. Nasty Girl (Co-starring Plies & Swizz Beatz) (Produced By Swizz Beatz)

Mr. J 05-11-2015 10:40 PM

So is it 4 solid albums max or they have to have more than 4

Idlewild>>>

Ghost1 05-11-2015 10:50 PM

They have to have made atleast 4 albums

An u have to consider every album they ever made



Buncha illiterate ass writers. Lol. The irony.

oats 05-11-2015 10:57 PM

Common is close, too. Universal Mind Control is kinda meh, but other than that his catalogue is on-point.

I think it's hard to define what a "bad" album is. Like, we all know one when we hear it, but harder to pinpoint what makes it shitty, and what the difference between a bad album and a decent one, etc. I've met a kid who said Encore by Eminem was his favorite album, which I think is easily his worst (and overall a legit bad album). So, there's that.

Certain 05-11-2015 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oats murkel (Post 481507)
Common is close, too. Universal Mind Control is kinda meh, but other than that his catalogue is on-point.

Electric Circus and Universal Mind Control qualify as bad, I think. (I'm actually seeing a bunch of positive reviews for Electric Circus, which I think has more to do with mainstream music media not knowing how to handle rap reviews at that point in history. Universal Mind Control was panned by everyone.) I'm pretty OK with The Dreamer/The Believer and Nobody's Smiling, though my expectations were very low.

I do love Common, though. I think he's produced one classic (Resurrection), one near-classic (Be) and a bunch of really good albums.

oats 05-11-2015 11:09 PM

I may not have listened to Electric Circus come to think of it. I'll take your word for it.

I forgot - Pharoahe Monch is now 4 for 4 on good to great albums. This is not debatable.

Certain 05-11-2015 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oats murkel (Post 481523)
I may not have listened to Electric Circus come to think of it. I'll take your word for it.

I forgot - Pharoahe Monch is now 4 for 4 on good to great albums. This is not debatable.

You want to talk about a guy who never finds beats to match his ability. I'd say all four are good but should have been great if he hadn't insisted on (been cheap in) self-producing so much.

oats 05-11-2015 11:12 PM

that only applies to his first album imo, which has a few misstep tracks, but overall can not be considered bad. Desire, WAR, and PTSD are all good. He was the shit in Organized Konfusion, too.

Ghost1 05-11-2015 11:28 PM

No mention of like water for choc? That shit was a classic

An ptsd wack lol.

oats 05-11-2015 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagsworth Bentley (Post 481532)
An ptsd wack lol.

you are literally the first person I've ever heard say something less than "it's dope." what tracks do you not like? I'll listen to this shit again today, but I thought it was dope start to finish tbh.

big baby 05-12-2015 01:01 AM

hea we go with the nigga rap talk yawn hoo care

Fart 05-12-2015 04:24 AM

ATCQ

Objective 05-12-2015 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art (Post 481554)
ATCQ

Word, and Jurassic 5 imo.

Fart 05-12-2015 06:51 AM

if groups count

oats 05-12-2015 07:18 AM

Royce is 4/4 too: Rock City, Death is Certain, Street Hop, and Success is Certain are all good.

veritas 05-12-2015 08:29 AM

How has no one said UGK?

Inno 05-12-2015 08:45 AM

Dam i hate to mention him but no one else has lol

Eminem?

Infinite

Slim shady lp

Marshal mathers lp

Eminem show?

Certain 05-12-2015 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art (Post 481554)
ATCQ

The Love Movement was so bad they broke up over it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Objective (Post 481559)
Word, and Jurassic 5 imo.

Same with Feedback.

Certain 05-12-2015 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 481564)
Dam i hate to mention him but no one else has lol

Eminem?

Infinite

Slim shady lp

Marshal mathers lp

Eminem show?

You are illiterate.

Wise Wiggles 05-12-2015 09:35 AM

atmosphere
brother ali

Geno 05-12-2015 10:37 AM

Yall crazy. 808s my second fav kanye album
Yeezus good
I wasnt a big fan of his first three cause i didnt start listening til dark fantasy
..stil not a huge fan of them joints.

Inno 05-12-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481567)
You are illiterate.

Op says a rapper with 4 overall good albums.

Ems a rapper right?

He has more than 4 right?

Opinion right?


Wtf are u talking about?

Certain 05-12-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 481580)
Op says a rapper with 4 overall good albums.

Ems a rapper right?

He has more than 4 right?

Opinion right?


Wtf are u talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 481314)
Do you guys think there is a rapper who never made a bad album?

I ask it this way because obv it is all opinion, so in your opinion, is there someone who has ALWAYS dropped solid work every time?

4+ albums required to qualify.

Plus, Bags pointed this out like three times already in this thread.

Objective 05-12-2015 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481566)
Same with Feedback.

I like Feedback. :(

Inno 05-12-2015 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481581)
Plus, Bags pointed this out like three times already in this thread.

Its an opinion certain

Im my opinion em hasnt made a "bad album"

what was i thinking not reading every single post in this thread right?

Certain 05-12-2015 01:33 PM

OK, your post listed his first four albums. You are aware that he has more than that, right? Also, if you like Relapse AND Recovery, you're the worst.

Witty 05-12-2015 02:19 PM

I liked relapse and recovery :/

Relapse moreso, but Recovery was ok too imo.

Encore was atrocious.

Witty 05-12-2015 02:26 PM

Oh no wait i disliked recovery and thought mmlp2 was decent.

Ignore previous post.

Certain 05-12-2015 02:29 PM

I haven't liked an Eminem album since The Eminem Show, but I can abide by someone liking Marshall Mathers LP 2 or Encore or Relapse or Recovery. But liking all four? You're just a Stan at that point.

Witty 05-12-2015 02:34 PM

Was recovery the album with Love The Way You Lie?

If so, that and encore were not so enjoyable for me.

Encore will always be my least favourite album of all time, at least with Recovery his ability shone through even past all the corniness, in Encore it's like he completely forgot how to write a decent verse.

Malachi 05-12-2015 02:44 PM

Kendrick Lamar was a good answer

Split Eight 05-12-2015 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481598)
I haven't liked an Eminem album since The Eminem Show, but I can abide by someone liking Marshall Mathers LP 2 or Encore or Relapse or Recovery. But liking all four? You're just a Stan at that point.



THANK YOU

Witty 05-12-2015 02:52 PM

I wouldn't say anyone who likes all of them is a Stan.

People like different things, it doesn't make them wrong or right.

A Stan is someone who likes it simply because of the name and ignores the music completely. A Stan is someone who has decided it is great before even listening. If you listen with honesty and no bias because of who it is, and still happened to enjoy all of them, I don't think that makes you a Stan or incorrect. We like what we like.

Mr. J 05-12-2015 02:54 PM

DOOM>>>>

Inno 05-12-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481595)
OK, your post listed his first four albums. You are aware that he has more than that, right?Also, if you like Relapse AND Recovery, you're the worst.


You dont say? Plz tell me more about common knowledge certain.

Lol jesus man step off your high horse for a bit. Of course im aware
Hes got more than 4 albums.

But think sbout this, wouldnt it be more impressive if an artist had 4 in a row
Instead of 4 in total?

Quality albums that is.

Certain 05-12-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 481605)
You dont say? Plz tell me more about common knowledge certain.

Lol jesus man step off your high horse for a bit. Of course im aware
Hes got more than 4 albums.

But think sbout this, wouldnt it be more impressive if an artist had 4 in a row
Instead of 4 in total?

Quality albums that is.

If you have four total albums, then you have four in a row.

I will not step off my high horse.

Wise Wiggles 05-12-2015 03:36 PM

so eminem is the only person with stans? LOL..

Relapse was dope as fuck anyways.

Only born again em haters talk shit on it.

I don't favor encore. Is it bad? Fuck/hell no.

It's lightyears beyond some of the shit getting praised these days and in this thread.

I stand by my picks

Show my a bad atmosphere or brother ali album...

You cant

big baby 05-12-2015 03:52 PM

Brad Pitt is sew hot

big baby 05-12-2015 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 481606)
If you have four total albums, then you have four in a row.

I will not step off my high horse.

won play connect four with bb

Ghost1 05-12-2015 04:11 PM

Lol if encore was the first album slim released it would have been his last. That shit legit top 5 worst rap albums oat

An I'm a legit em fan


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