theres complete sense in what i'm saying. you neither attributed or pinpointed any of these things. and to what extent are we describing what is what?

from what i recorded, altering anything of your body to achieve something better/desirable, i.e tommy john would fall into that category. it's not necessary to live, unless you go to the extent saying that their livelihood IS that. so you're saying, porn stars, waiting business, strippers are an exception to this? because it's their job right? huhm.

and technically they are doing it for performance, though typically different audiences if you're comparing with major league pitchers. lol. so corrective nose jobs are ok with you, but gigantic tits, arent, i see. as long as it isnt outrageous, then it fits well with you on a cognitive level. you were vague on pronouncing whether or not it is, or isn't, just announcing it as 'levels' so level 5 of big tits is more outrageous than level 1 with a restorative nose work? but i guess 'you're not against it', just think it's a deep character flaw. understandable.

i guess you can say there is a character flaw, but i think pan saying they should be written off completely is a bit much. I just think it's absurd to write it off as a deep rooted flaw, or something 'serious'. YEAH MAN, YOU DONT LIKE WHAT YOU WERE BORN WITH? THOUGH EVEN PROBABLY, SOCIETYS FAULT, BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY MADE YOU THINK THIS WAY, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD LIVE WITH IT. CAUSE PLASTIC IS MEANINGLESS. THOUGH I AM NOT AGAINST YOU DOING IT BECAUSE THERES A DEEP CHARACTER FLAW, THERE. lol it's just absurd if you think about in a non-grandiose way. let's take a jump, and ask what about tattoos? and don't say for 'SENTIMENTAL VALUE, MY MOM DIED 7.4 R.IP I LOVE HER THIS BOAT SYMBOLIZES THAT'. (though i'm sure that may be the most prominent reason for a lot of people, but..) It's aesthetic. If tattoo's served no aesthetic purpose, tattoos wouldn't exist. So it is aesthetically based. So that's completely out of question. Even if it's for you just to see (which, typically, on a large scale s'why people that get plastic surgery get the procedures done.) What's the big deal? Yeah, you're not altering yourself with a tattoo, though, aesthetically you sort of are

well @uh-oh made the claim while i was typing.

i agree being snotty about it, and not agreeing just displays a snooty little personality. IM TOO FAR ABOVE, THIS PLASTIC, STUFF.


it's stupid. plastic will be around in 50 years. most likely you won't. plastic is forever, babe.

lol @ painting the wall analogy being horrible.

deadman how many tattoos you got

Still a built up body tho. Its not the feel or look that turns me away, its the knowledge and thought of it. Pretty much turns me off. Truthfully and i may get ridiculed for it but if nikki minaj ass is fake then i wouldn't want to fuck her. Its just dont sit right in my head. Real deal

some people would say yes but i don't think so. its more about the motivation behind it

if you are getting a tattoo primarily so people will notice you and you will feel more desirable then its not that different. in the case of cosmetic surgery its overwhelmingly so.

you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who got ass injections to honor their fallen loved one or remind them of a substantial moment in their lifetime.

zero

also tattooing is an ancient art form. i doubt anybody in the paleolithic era was too worried about their tit and ass sizes or facial aging or we would see some evidence of them trying to change it. insert modern cultural media bullshit here. but the 2 are inherently different and imo trying to draw any rational parallel is a reach.

word I dont mind at personally. but I feel where you guys are coming from

id just rather have fake ass than no ass. while any other plastic surgery is the opposite. rather have no titties than fake ones etc.

nah I hear you. some ancient cultures would wrap the heads of infants making them have those alien skulls. somewhere to this day. I wanna say africa? maybe india,but yea they put rings on womens necks and keep adding them to get longer necks

humans modifying there looks has been a thing since the beginning of time.

if humans could cut eachother open regularly without fear of infection/other shit im sure they wouldve did more crazy shit back then too

"getting cosmetic surgery is for shallow people who obsess over appearances, whenever I recognize someone that has underwent plastic surgery I am filled with disgust and don't want to associate with them"

>being this fucking stupid
>2014

that's a 7 layer burrito of stupidity. that conceptual tapestry of stupidity has more perfectly wound, intellectual nuances to it than Muzzl3 believes are in his verses.

Stopped reading your posts in this thread right about there. If you actually have seen ass implants before, you'd know they are like fake tits and can have many problems as well. There's scarring, there's the fact that like tits, the implant can move around and be obviously noticeable/off underneath the skin, etc. You clearly aren't knowledgeable on this subject and I kindly ask you to refrain from anything on the topic henceforth.

roflz @dead man killing these niggas softly, doe.

Get 'em.

word that is true. but we don't live in a homogenous tribal village where this is traditional normative stuff. whatever religious or cultural reasoning people of the past had for drastic body modification is no longer driving that behavior

idk you're probably right tho. if the instinct is the same and the reasons and justifications behind it just change as time goes on, there's really no point condemning it. i just think that shit is ugly.

also OP was clearly talking about attraction and not character

Really? 100% against it? Even those chicks that's had breast cancer and had to remove their set and got some implants/surgery to feel like a woman again? Not everything is about some bitch wanting more attention and becoming a sex symbol, but rather feeling more like herself or get her identity back as a woman. Or that flatchested chick with the breasts of a 8 year old, I don't find it wrong/fucked up that she wants to get some size on them. Not talking something crazy, just to feel and be looked upon as more normal. Or how about them transgenders etc., you going to deny their right to be what they've felt they've been their entire lives?

Just like Witty I couldn't give a fuck about what people does to their body, but I'd lie if I didn't say that I silently judge people that overdoes it. But ye, when it comes to certain surgeries I can't help but think that you suck as a human being if you can't understand why that flat chested chick decided to do something to better her self image as a woman, or that former cancer patient to get her tits back.

*sigh*

Exception/rule

I was obviously not talking about breast cancer patients.

I honestly hate debates because of shit like this.

Take your huff and puff to someone else. I have no use for it.

you mightve noticed I mentioned LEGIT fake booty. not the shitty cheap horror stories you can google

chicks that get ass implants are legit lazy tho. go for a jog eat a steak and get some squats in you rolling chair 8 hours a day administrative assistant ass bitch

i agree with uh oh, the ass is a part of the body that chunks are taken out of to recover other parts of your being. MISSING AN EAR? LETS TAKE SOM SKIN FROM YOUR ASS.


all in all it's just stereotypical to assume that ALL people, that's right ALL PEOPLE. Obviously removing the identities deadman/pancake assumed (after the fact..) who cosmetically enhance themselves is some serious deep rooted character flaw. that's the dumbest shit i've heard, and if you' can't even assimilate what goes around that, even hypothetically, you're just not being reasonable.

@Certain add a win to my colum please

My bad man, I apologize. Got to take more notice of where I'm discussing shit and who I'm discussing it with. I swear to God ''obviously not talking about cancer patients n shit'' don't cover some of the idiots I've talked to in the past 6 months. A friend of mines girl is a feminist, she's healthy about her views, 100% down with equality and all that shit. But some of her friends again is closing up to extremist standpoints and would be serious with ''100% against it'' stuff. When you've had a few of those debates irl you kind of slip up here and there when you're talking with ''normal'' people. Sorry man.

you think you won an argument because you typed a lot.

you didn't change anyone's perspective. your side isn't any more right than ours.

strong troll game, though. could've used more kamehams and whatnot