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Flow 06-12-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by namix (Post 74560)
in my industry, you're going to get banner advertisements eitherway, we might as well make them a bit more relevant to you based on the sites you've been to and the demographic you are in based on all of your social network information we accumulate :)

Very true - I am sure all in my industry would agree with that statement too

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 08:59 AM

tbh its to early to read that right now...but ever since the patriot act has been inacted i feel the constitution is pretty much to those in powers whim to do what they plz with...i mean its always been, and was wrote to be, openly interpreted, but now i feel they've empowered the ppl who don't need the power the ultimate say...basically the checks outweight the balances...but ill read later...just my take on the title, first few sentences, and aforementioned comments.

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 11:09 AM

alright i read it.

tbh i havn't been following the 'trial'...in fact idk if its a 'congressional hearing,' 'court martial,' or 'criminal trial?' Which all pose diff limitations as to what and how evidence is presented...but to ignore prior 'war precidents' like neuremburg n geneva is totally absurd no matter what type of court imo...but i agree with the article for the most part, they are prosecuting the wrong person/people, for all the wrong reasons...but intent rarely matters (cept w murder cases) in court... and bc the repercussions of said act could be so extreme its easy to place him as a scapegoat to advert public attention to other attrocities of war, and stiffle other 'whistle-blowers.' I stand by my previous quick summation/predicition though..the CHECKS outweigh the BALANCES, now a days. Moreover, that 'espionage act' can lead to a further direct intrusion into privacy...but tbh i figured they been doin sht like that for yrs...with like 'flag words' and stuff...that line btw privacy/protection just keeps gettin thinner tho.. @Vulgar.
@namix...the use of propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation is and always has been crucial in war...Hitler understood that, which is how he rallied up so many, so fast...'if you tell a lie big enough, frequently enough, it will be believed...he who owns the youth, owns the future'...propaganda has a direct impact on mass public perception...which in turn affects outlook toward the gov't...so just thru the control of information, you can basically turn something thats a blantent lie into a widespread truth to those who percieve it as real...

namix 06-13-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon (Post 74622)
alright i read it.
@namix...the use of propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation is and always has been crucial in war...Hitler understood that, which is how he rallied up so many, so fast...'if you tell a lie big enough, frequently enough, it will be believed...he who owns the youth, owns the future'...propaganda has a direct impact on mass public perception...which in turn affects outlook toward the gov't...so just thru the control of information, you can basically turn something thats a blantent lie into a widespread truth to those who percieve it as real...

word up

and Hitler adopted his approach from the same esoteric philosophies which the controlling class utilize today.

They enhanced their ability to, as you said, 'own the youth to own the future', by applying those same principles to "their leverage model of control" -- which is what Hitler didn't do....

Figureheads make for an easy target, but by being a puppet master who controls puppets who are puppet masters to other puppets themselves --- they sacrifice their 'ego today' for more control tomorrow. Patience is a virtue that can be utilized for vice --- by slowly manipulating society through pop-culture for decades vs. through "motivational rallys" over a couple years, the youth literally finds themselves forming the ideas which they believe are their own....



In the end, this kinda shit isn't even conspiracy theory or something -- more like the most logical and effective way to develop a self-sustaining system of control.

Rawn M.D. 06-13-2013 09:30 AM

Exactly...take the variable of time of make it indefinite...and u can perpetuate the system forever...and make whatever u want ultimately true.


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