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Mael 11-21-2013 09:42 PM

@KennyCerealBowl,

Check out these links -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_pr..._consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_problem

To answer your question about the two brains problem; you'd be dead, most likely. What constitutes "you" is essentially that - the combination of an insurmountable number of microscopic and macroscopic components.

In other words, the self is a completed puzzle. Ergo, an incomplete puzzle cannot be the self.

You seem to be confused, isolating consciousness as distinct from the body. This is not the case. The body came first, not consciousness.

...the Nagger 11-22-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212826)
MAYBE ITS CUZ YA TO RETARDED TO GET WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS.

Consciousness isn't just a sense of being awake. It's a sense of self awareness okay look

If consciousness was physical that would imply that we are nothing but neurons encoded into our brains. SO well if thats true if IF hypothetically speaking I was to have one half of brain in one body and another half in another body. Who would I be?

You can switch a brain but you cannot switch awareness so awareness cannot be part of our brain.

there is no situation where someones brain was split in two and had both halves of their brains put into two bodies tho

so in my mind once you split a brain in half either only one will have consciousness or neither will, there isn't going to be two consciousnesses

that's why you sound retarded. you keep saying that as if it would be

Witty 11-22-2013 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212391)
Any thoughts.. ?
Saw this BBC Documentary on it I found it fascinating but kind of dissapointed towards tuhae end..

I refuse to believe awareness is a physical part of life idgaf

Word, with all that research and experimentation you have done, you are definitely right.

Forget scientists and professionals, you definitely know best.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 11:59 AM

It's like nobody has the creativity anymore,l

witt did u even watch the documentary?

Witty 11-22-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 213175)
It's like nobody has the creativity anymore,l

witt did u even watch the documentary?

No.

And I don't plan to, I don't need to in order to know that your argument ITT makes no sense...I'm sure the documentary is legit and sound scientifically but what you said in this thread was not.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:06 PM

It doesn't really explain consciousness being physical well it kinda does in some test.

But it turns out that your subconscious mind makes your decision 6 seconds before you consciously make a decision.


Nd we think we are in control.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:09 PM

The only reason it doesn't make sense its because you guys trying to hard to jump on me lol buncha faggots. the same arguement I used was the same arguement used in the documentary.

How bout before ya try to blow my dick how bout ya sink it in and stop being so egostical god damn.

Witty 11-22-2013 12:13 PM

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We are in control...it is YOUR subconscious making that decision, it comes from YOUR mind, based on knowledge and experiences that YOU have gathered, how are you not in control?

Subconsciousness is not another mind or another you...all of it is you, consciousness and subconsciousness is a by-product of having a brain, you seem to think that because these things happen automatically it must mean it is separate from the brain, but it is just another part of your brain...without the physical brain, consciousness or subconsciousness does not exist.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:21 PM

I never said it was another me neither was it implied in that post.

i just said before we consciously make a decision our brain makes it for us 6 seconds before. so that means before you consciously make the decision to say turn on the ac subconsciously it made that decision already 6 seconds before.

Witty 11-22-2013 12:28 PM

Yes but it is still your physical brain making that decision, how does that go any way in proving that consciousness isn't physical?

Consciousness is just a by-product of the brain, it is how the brain sends instructions and messages, once the brain is gone so is any consciousness it had been producing because it is no longer being powered by the mind.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:30 PM

What happens when u die witty

Witty 11-22-2013 12:32 PM

The same thing that happened before I was born...nothing.

...the Nagger 11-22-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 213190)
I never said it was another me neither was it implied in that post.

i just said before we consciously make a decision our brain makes it for us 6 seconds before. so that means before you consciously make the decision to say turn on the ac subconsciously it made that decision already 6 seconds before.

what witty is saying is that you keep saying subconscious as if someone is sending msgs to your brain or something

and what is that 6 second thing you talking about? tell that to floyd mayweather


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