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Diode 11-14-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mael (Post 207980)
There is no fairness in this reality. Why on earth would you think nihilism should save you from the reoccurring nightmare?

Nihilism is atheism's version of wishful thinking. Good luck with that.

Who said reality has to be fair?

Here, let me pull a "you":

Theists' commitment to religion is entirely predicated on their desire for justice and morality in the world.

Mael 11-14-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 207983)
Who said reality has to be fair?

Here, let me pull a "you":

Theists' commitment to religion is entirely predicated on their desire for justice and morality in the world.

It isn't, and that's thanks to free-will. If life were fair, then freedom goes out the window. Let's hope you can see the connection there.

And you're wrong. His existence just happens to resolve many of the underlying problems we see in reality, one of which is a lack of true justice.

For the record, I subscribe to no religion. I simply believe in God.

DLB 11-14-2013 11:34 AM

religious debates cant happen for this exact reason

ppl question ur god & u bitch about it

show some factual proof a god exists or continue to believe what u want & others will do the same

Mael 11-14-2013 11:44 AM

@Q

I'm not bitching about shit. The point of my thread was exactly it's title, people bringing up arguments for the non-existence of God that belong in preschool debates. That's all.

If you believe or don't believe in God, I don't give a fuck tbh. But I'll give you a run for your money in an argument.

BTW @Diode

I understand your question. It's seems to be a variation of questions regarding the inherent/axiomatic state; i.e. Why should we assume there is something rather than nothing, or, why should we assume a state of order is greater than a state of chaos, why is X preferred over Y.. etc.

Diode 11-14-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mael (Post 207990)
It isn't, and that's thanks to free-will. If life were fair, then freedom goes out the window. Let's hope you can see the connection there.

And you're wrong. His existence just happens to resolve many of the underlying problems we see in reality, one of which is a lack of true justice.

For the record, I subscribe to no religion. I simply believe in God.

I don't see a lack of true justice as a problem and your characterization that all atheists see it as a problem that needs resolution is false.

Not an atheist myself, by the way.

DLB 11-14-2013 11:46 AM

it seems u are hurt at the argument tbh

im agnostic, what are ur thoughts

Mael 11-14-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 208008)
I don't see a lack of true justice as a problem and your characterization that all atheists see it as a problem that needs resolution is false.

Not an atheist myself, by the way.

Actually, atheists not seeing it as a problem is a problem. Let's suppose you have a daughter. A man rapes her, he never gets caught. I mean, I suppose time would heal those wounds, but do you owe it to your daughter to bring her justice? Idk, that's on you. You don't really know what justice is until you're the one getting the other end of the stick. Death isn't the great equalizer, it's a pussy's escape from consequence. At least that's what they think.

Honestly, this could be the matrix. Simulated reality is a serious theory of inquiry, and if you've heard of the "space-time crystal computer", a theory by;

Quote:

Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek, a theoretical physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
http://usahitman.com/atccoeu/

This being a computer simulation isn't completely absurd, even plausible. So my idea of God could simply be the creator of this system, who knows?

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Originally Posted by Q
it seems u are hurt at the argument tbh

im agnostic, what are ur thoughts

Nah, I ain't hurt at all tbh.

I can't dictate what you believe in. So there's not much I can say. Probably the safest place to be because you're not getting shit from atheism all the time.

Diode 11-14-2013 12:31 PM

It is a problem for you. It is not a problem for everyone. It is especially not a problem for atheists who certainly do not believe in hell, despite your willingness to deem otherwise.

Objective 11-14-2013 12:44 PM

It's boring to begin with. I mean. We can't even be sure if there's a floating chair that goes through my body at this exact moment, or that we know absolutely everything, we just need to be reminded about them etc!

You know what. These debates bore the shit out of me on Netcees, nobody says nothing new that hasn't already been thoroughly examined. And if you aren't reading up on philosophy, or psychology for that matter, there's nothing interesting to discuss either tbh. Joining a philosophy forums circlejerk isn't helping much either unless you know what the fuck they're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Greed
Dare I ask your thoughts on other religions aside from christianity

It's not a secret that it's a defense mechanism people use to cope with death.

Greed 11-14-2013 02:30 PM

Christianity, to me, is a book of reasons why one should act a certain way, with jesus being the martyr that made it worth reading.

Jesuse kicked it with hookers and they can make anything happen. Explains the followers, and also explains the resurrection. That many devout followers can push the cause after death.

That's just me though.

Jesus was a jew, this should also be discussed.

veritas 11-14-2013 03:44 PM

if you say you believe in God, that at best qualifies you to be devil....just saying.

Split 11-14-2013 05:29 PM

Diode is one dumb nigger

Geno 11-14-2013 08:41 PM

666

Fart 11-14-2013 08:46 PM

Worst thread of november award

Greed 11-14-2013 08:55 PM

A drastic turn.

Diode 11-14-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Eight (Post 208236)
Diode is one dumb nigger

TEENAGERS AND TWENTY YEAR OLDS ARE SO CLEVER

AMG HIT ME WITH MORE UNNECESSARILY VERBOSE VOCABULARY MULTISYLLABIC RHYMES, AESOP

Split 11-14-2013 10:59 PM

why dont you YDK me a verse in nonrhyming format about how your heart is almost as broken as your penis

Diode 11-14-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Eight (Post 208744)
why dont you YDK me a verse in nonrhyming format about how your heart is almost as broken as your penis

lol @ nonrhyming format

i would love to see one of your failboats recorded to audio

please regale us

you are as text as text gets dude

congrats on reading my archive from my early 20s. i am married. no more for you.

Plot 11-15-2013 12:59 AM

Religion is a mind control device.
Religious people have responsibility issues and a deep desire to be subservient.

Scripter 11-15-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Metts (Post 207893)
" Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals. " Dr. Martin Luther King

Religion in my opinion is nothing more then a form of government, which means to restrict...
Religion is man made....


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