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Suthaveli 03-29-2019 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 733848)
It's all subjective anyway. Every QB is in a different system and situation and objective analysis (outside of detailed film analysis by people who actually know what they're looking for [even that is tricky without knowing exact coaching queues]) is almost impossible outside of the clearly elite like Rodgers, Brees, etc.

Just my opinion those three are less valuable than Wentz this year.

At the end of it all, this is what matters most. But makes for great debate.. idk if you had this epiphany while typing this or before hand, but yea.

Respectable reply

Suthaveli 03-29-2019 09:13 PM

Trippin.
Forgot Glam Cam.

uh-oh 03-29-2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Suthaveli (Post 733842)
I'm from Baltimore.
I'm a Ravens fan, but I'm not delusional.
Flacco's has pedestrian regular season numbers.
I will take Flacco in playoff games any day tho.
& niggas hate on Alex Smith, but he's lowkey ard.
I almost put kurt Cousins on the list but laugh myself into deletion.

you let that baltimore media permeate and invade your soul. i see it too, and ignore it. they've been putting the spin on it tryna degrade da god. sure flacco is pedestrian during the regular season. but remember when he put 5 td's on the bucs in THE FIRST QUARTER. rip. lol but yea you already know the multitude of factors of why he was underwhelming post super bowl. sketchy olines, offensive coordinators, shit receivers and run games etc etc. i hope flacco balls out next year. i just don't think the broncos got an offense for him either lol.

alex smith is a G. i've been behind him for awhile now but people don't get it.

andrew luck is fucking trash, and loses games consistently due to HIS play. he can make all the throws and put up highlights, but he's a bum. just like rivers. their names will be around cuz they can put up stats in meaningless games but they are garbage and fold. i only hate on matt ryan cuz he's no flacco and came out of the same draft.

i would take roethlisberger of today over wentz TALENT wise, but all the locker room buffoonery might make me take wentz over him.

but all this was started with me saying wentz is a top 10 guy. im not saying he's better than everyone in a top 10.

uh-oh 03-29-2019 10:57 PM

also its good to note im espescially biased by really only ever watching ravens games. so my impression of most qb's is how they fared against the ravens, and or big games in general (playoffs/super bowls only shit i watch that isn't ravens)

other than highlights/lowlights and shit of course but word.

CAVEAT

bleak 03-29-2019 11:01 PM

Andrew Luck carries a dumpster fire of a team, you blaming those losses on him is ludicrous. That team should have never been in the playoffs but they were because of Andrew Luck, not in spite of him

He may end up a Philip Rivers v2 in the 2nd half of his career but he's got plenty of time to prove otherwise.

White LGI 03-30-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 733877)
you let that baltimore media permeate and invade your soul. i see it too, and ignore it. they've been putting the spin on it tryna degrade da god. sure flacco is pedestrian during the regular season. but remember when he put 5 td's on the bucs in THE FIRST QUARTER. rip. lol but yea you already know the multitude of factors of why he was underwhelming post super bowl. sketchy olines, offensive coordinators, shit receivers and run games etc etc. i hope flacco balls out next year. i just don't think the broncos got an offense for him either lol.

alex smith is a G. i've been behind him for awhile now but people don't get it.

andrew luck is fucking trash, and loses games consistently due to HIS play. he can make all the throws and put up highlights, but he's a bum. just like rivers. their names will be around cuz they can put up stats in meaningless games but they are garbage and fold. i only hate on matt ryan cuz he's no flacco and came out of the same draft.

i would take roethlisberger of today over wentz TALENT wise, but all the locker room buffoonery might make me take wentz over him.

but all this was started with me saying wentz is a top 10 guy. im not saying he's better than everyone in a top 10.


Matt Ryan is the best QB in the NFL without a ring and NFL politics cheated him outta that

Suthaveli 03-31-2019 06:06 PM

My b, I tapped out of this.

DMS 04-01-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Suthaveli (Post 733829)
In no order

Tom Brady
Ben Roflszeberger
Aaron Rogers
Drew breez
Patrick Mahomes
Jared Goff
Russell Wilson
Deshaun Watson
Phillip Rivers
Matt Ryan
Andrew Luck
Alex Smith



That's 12 off bat, if you're trying to subtract 2

Yeh but scratch off Alex Smith, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers and Jared Goff.

White LGI 04-01-2019 03:52 PM

Why Matt Ryan gets so much hate baffles me....he plays for a shit franchise, yet he has to his credit, mvp award, offensive player of the year award....two nfc title apperences, 1 super bowl apperence....almost 300 career touchdown passes 46 thousand yards....

All while be the 14th winnest QB in NFL history with years left on his career, he will easily be top 7 or 8 winnest QB in the history of the league...I'm stunned he gets so much hate

Suthaveli 04-01-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Snitching is gangsta (Post 734306)
Why Matt Ryan gets so much hate baffles me....he plays for a shit franchise, yet he has to his credit, mvp award, offensive player of the year award....two nfc title apperences, 1 super bowl apperence....almost 300 career touchdown passes 46 thousand yards....

All while be the 14th winnest QB in NFL history with years left on his career, he will easily be top 7 or 8 winnest QB in the history of the league...I'm stunned he gets so much hate


uh-oh 04-01-2019 06:30 PM

i never see anyone hate on him but me to be fair. outside of his SB meltdown

White LGI 04-01-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 734351)
i never see anyone hate on him but me to be fair. outside of his SB meltdown

He never in talks like luck,rivers n them but he is a lot better....hell he better than flacco to u Raven homer

DMS 04-03-2019 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snitching is gangsta (Post 734306)
Why Matt Ryan gets so much hate baffles me....he plays for a shit franchise, yet he has to his credit, mvp award, offensive player of the year award....two nfc title apperences, 1 super bowl apperence....almost 300 career touchdown passes 46 thousand yards....

All while be the 14th winnest QB in NFL history with years left on his career, he will easily be top 7 or 8 winnest QB in the history of the league...I'm stunned he gets so much hate

In 14th winningest, do you mean 14th most wins or 14th best win%?

White LGI 04-03-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DMS (Post 734627)
In 14th winningest, do you mean 14th most wins or 14th best win%?

Edited with the answer

He is 14th all-time in wins
16th all-time in winning percentage

DMS 04-03-2019 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snitching is gangsta (Post 734677)
Edited with the answer

He is 14th all-time in wins
16th all-time in winning percentage

Where’d you get that stat because I found 27 people tied or ahead

This is including post season and only after 1969 so 29 including Otto Graham and Bart Starr

Tom Brady
Russel Wilson
J Kelly
R Stabauch
Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
S McNair
Kurt Warner
McKnab
S Young
J Montana
Aaron Rodgers
Ken Stabler I’m pretty sure
Joe Flacco
John Elway
Terry Bradshaw
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Marino
Otto Graham
Bart Starr
Ben Roeth
To name a few

White LGI 04-03-2019 09:53 PM

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html

That's active he is 8th

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-...ltime=1&sort=w

That's all time

He is actually 16

DMS 04-03-2019 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Snitching is gangsta (Post 734723)

That’s wins not win% tho

uh-oh 04-03-2019 10:08 PM

Lamar da god with the % lol

Flacco still beating out ryan in that category as well

FlAcCo hAd a DeFEnSe tHo

White LGI 04-03-2019 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 734727)
Lamar da god with the % lol

Flacco still beating out ryan in that category as well

FlAcCo hAd a DeFEnSe tHo

Same amount of wins Matt just more durable

DMS 04-03-2019 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 734727)
Lamar da god with the % lol

Flacco still beating out ryan in that category as well

FlAcCo hAd a DeFEnSe tHo

Lamar’s playoff win% is 0% and Brady’s is 75% tho


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