I think what makes me hesitant about vaping is that the inhaled particles can be smaller and contain stuff that isn't as well tested on lungs, whereas traditional tobacco is just the devil we know

Hell of a devil tho

exactly. anyone trying to claim vaping is healthier is ignorant. it COULD be, but we don't have lifetimes of data on its effects yet. one youtube video showing what builds up on cotton means nothing.

also a quick google of popcorn lung shows you that vaping contains the same chemical that causes it, so just stop.

inhaling foreign substances in your lungs is bad. what a THOUGHT

It is healthier
I don’t need a lifetime of data
I personally smoked for 17 years and couldn’t run a half mile without being winded
I had smokers cough always
I started vaping and within 2 months I had no cough
I could run 2 miles without being winded
I personally know it’s better because I feel better. It doesn’t take data to know that
It also doesn’t take a genius to read more than one article to determine the exact chemical that causes popcorn lung and to realize if you’re buying your juice from anywhere other than a gas station, you’re probably ok

that chemical is in every single vape juice, its just more prevalent in flavored varieties.

you are in essence arguing its better because it doesn't have the physical effects of the other. the tar issue basically. but you are still exposing yourself to cancer causing agents, which is what kills you from tobacco smoke. the tar is a byproduct. look at how much resin/tar comes from weed. whens the last time you heard of people getting lung cancer from it?

chewing tobacco/dip leads to cancer. its the chemicals in it that give it. vaping has known cancer causing chemicals. we don't have the data of lifelong vapers to compare to the data of lifelong smokers. to claim one is healthier is nonsense

the answer at this point is don't do either if you're worried about your health

One is combustion
One isn’t
It’s simply not that hard to understand how combustion is a million times worse
The chemical you are referring to is what?
Because is sounds like bullshit to me

Diacetyl (spelling may be off)

It's in most, but not in all, usually in the more heavily flavored ones

Well, if you’re doing the research you know cigarettes have more diacetyl and who’s gotten popcorn lung from smoking cigarettes? That data on diacetyl and lung harm isn’t there yet

lol pretty much everyone who got lung disease from smoking cigarettes

i'm assuming what you said after the part i bolded, you meant in reference to e-cigs. because the data is certainly there for diacetyl in general. also my whole point has been the data isn't there yet on e-cigs so to claim them as healthier is speaking from a place of ignorance. we literally don't know

also i got diacetyl confused with something they said is in antifreeze? the one thats in all of them. but who knows, each time i google now its a new one, acetoin, pentanedione, nickle/lead/other metals, etc.

also remember i said it COULD be "healthier" than cigs. there just isn't data so pretending it is at this point is blah blah you get it

That’s fair. No veritas
I’m just taking the viewpoint that it’s likely safer and my own personal experience, while not data, enforces this

Not understanding proper battery care is probably the most dangerous part of e-cig use presently

for sure, that is the popcorn lung chemical as far as i know though

my main concern with vaping is that it's an aerosol or something like that, right? Different from traditional cigarette smoke so the same/different chemicals may have different effects and there's not nearly as much data

You’re 5’10 like 145 lbs right. You’re scared of life at this point as you’re a walking pussy. Prob slept with 5 women max and can’t keep a girl. You’re really looking into the effects of vaping? What a pussy. Just take a hit and grow some balls faggot.

Aero I'm one of the 3 people in text who think your threads make up for your verses

I wouldn't go down this road with me.




130 btw

I’m a legend in text.

5’10 130 lbs you’re a walking vagina let’s just be upfront. On top of that you don’t battle, you’re not funny or interesting and you can’t make an interesting thread so you try to be ironic. You can’t relate to me on any level. I should learn to play the saxophone so I’m better than you at literally everything. Go away for good.

lol you stupid caricature within a caricature of a hobby. Even when your whole persona is pretending to pathetically attached to text greatness you come off as a genuinely sad being

I was literally text's lifeline for two years that allowed your mid level verses to keep existing, which is something I have to live with for the rest of my life

Please, pick up the sax, make a thread about how hard it is, then immediately edit the OP to say 'delete this' cause that shtick is still killing it

GOOOOOOOOOD GRIEF!!!!!! LOL tell me how you REALLY FEEL. Sharp with the ether.

Luv u boo

those of y’all who think vaping is healthier aren’t taking into account the data of people who vape & get shot for looking like bitch ass fuckboys

@Aero shut the fuck up, bitch.

Look in to vaping and pop corn lungs, idiots.

I’d rather look into fathers who get a woman pregnant but won’t marry the mother and what effect it has on th children.