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veritas 11-05-2018 02:28 PM

But you have never had one encounter of one experience in all of your years that showed even the slightest indication that there might be something more than this? Or that there might be a God?

Nothing at all?

Destroyer 11-05-2018 02:43 PM

No

Destroyer 11-05-2018 02:44 PM

Look, even if I had, man, “might” is not enough for me to just accept blindly

Twodrop 11-05-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 713559)
But you have never had one encounter of one experience in all of your years that showed even the slightest indication that there might be something more than this? Or that there might be a God?

Nothing at all?

You might of talked about it before, but did something happen that proved God's existence to you? Or is it just years of learning from people you trusted.

Qualm 11-05-2018 03:32 PM

I like how we're doing this even though witty specifically said "Let's not do this"

Amen 11-05-2018 03:46 PM

Déjà vu

veritas 11-05-2018 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 713561)
Look, even if I had, man, “might” is not enough for me to just accept blindly

Just so I am clear, you went from a no, then thought about your whole life and now say, maybe.

But maybe is not enough.

Have I correctly articulated your mind so far Jude?

DMS 11-05-2018 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 713557)
I knew you would say that and solid retort. Fair. My second post started me doing that. Please address it honestly sir.

So can you answer my original question instead of making rather illogical, not grounded arguments?

Destroyer 11-05-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 713568)
Just so I am clear, you went from a no, then thought about your whole life and now say, maybe.

But maybe is not enough.

Have I correctly articulated your mind so far Jude?

No. Here’s the deal. A great claim, such as “the Christian god exists,” requires some pretty good evidence for me to accept it as truth. I have to believe in magical powers, resurrection, and a host of other supernatural claims. As far as what evidence there is, you’ve got your Bible, and you have historical record. Those aren’t bad. But, you have the same stuff existing around Greek gods, stories of their exploits and existence, stories of them interacting with humans of the time. I don’t believe Zeus existed anymore than Yahweh. The evidence is pretty much the same.
As far as the no vs the maybe, i lean heavily towards the no. But, I don’t know, and can’t know, so I have to concede that it stays at maybe. I’ll give you the maybe. But, following the maybe, I have to say that I’ve never seen anything personally that would lead me to believe that it was yes, and were I to see that, I would believe it, I’m not closed off to belief following what I would consider to be substantive proof.
Does that make sense to you?

PancakeBrah 11-05-2018 05:53 PM

If you say whilst unironically you're part of the problem.

Smod of War 11-05-2018 06:09 PM

Every. fucking. thread.

veritas 11-05-2018 06:58 PM

That was an excellent post. Yes it made sense. I suppose my only issue is that you have never experienced even the first instance of “Yahweh” speaking to you in either sign or vision or coincidence or synchronicity?

None?

I thought you told me that you grew up in church? Or did I just invent that lol.

Destroyer 11-05-2018 07:22 PM

You didn’t. I did. And no, I’ve never felt anything speak to me inside or outside of a church

uh-oh 11-05-2018 07:32 PM

so yall are doing this again eh?

DMS 11-05-2018 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 713662)
so yall are doing this again eh?

And I didn’t get my question answered in the end too

veritas 11-05-2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 713661)
You didn’t. I did. And no, I’ve never felt anything speak to me inside or outside of a church

Fascinating.

So never one sign? God has never talked to you or shown you something or used someone to communicate to you?

Destroyer 11-05-2018 07:45 PM

No, dude, not once

DMS 11-05-2018 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 713664)
Fascinating.

So never one sign? God has never talked to you or shown you something or used someone to communicate to you?

Veritas, can you answer my original question?

uh-oh 11-05-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 713664)
Fascinating.

So never one sign? God has never talked to you or shown you something or used someone to communicate to you?

do you think that because you have knowledge of a god figure, you've found signs where someone without knowledge of a god wouldn't find them?

veritas 11-05-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 713665)
No, dude, not once

At the risk of sounding presumptuous is it entirely outside the realm of possibility, like completely impossible, that all these talks for almost the last decade we have had That God was not using me to speak to you and give you signs?


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