Listening to KOD now. Please hold.

Also, you can't just single out multis or wordplay, EM does it all. Flow, Schemes, Punches, Wordplay, Humor, Witty, Creative, etc...

TO ME, none of these new aged cats are seeing him as far as lyricism. They just make better music, I guess. Hard to explain because to me it doesn't even make sense.

But it's like being able to build a house - doesn't mean you can sell it.

Also this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pedRHEpD-JU

PRhyme 2

KOD

I'm on track 5 (ATM) and so far this album is straight forward, simple schemed, basic knowledge writing. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying that in terms of lyricism nothing has been better lyrically than Kamikaze.

Fuck. Feel Me Flow by Naughty By Nature is better than this album in terms of lyricism, and that shit was a summer anthem single from like '93 or '94.

Em's technical prowess in terms of how he schemes things, words things and incorporates humor is on some genius, idiot savant type shit.

It sucks that the dude became the biggest pop act in the whole fucking world, because Infinite and SSEP showed how crazy he was with that part of rapping and writing.

I really think there's a gap between people who really appreciate what the guy does and those who know him as a popular, controversial rapper.

ATM

(Verse 1)
I know that it's difficult
I'm stackin' this paper, it's sort of habitual
I blow the residual
And fuckin' yo bitch like its part of my ritual
Pardon the visual
But money, it give me a hard-on it's typical
I want it in physical
A million dollars, I count up in intervals
Without it I'm miserable
Don't wanna fall off so I'm all in my bag
Thankin' God like it's biblical
I know it's gon' solve every problem I have
I balled on the principal
Remember the teachers was all on my ass
Now look all of them, pitiful
And all of a sudden I'm so good at math

Come on, man. This shit is so straight forward. I'm not even hating. It's not like it's bad or anything. It's dude's music, but to compare it lyrically to what Em does is just... like comparing the fact that I can cook spaghetti so I'm a culinary artist.

I don’t think his wordplays are intricate and think his humor isn’t funny, so we probably won’t ever agree

How Royce kill em on that track tho

KOD was terrible. Didn’t like anything from it.


Luv is Rage 2 is fire

phonte dropped better this year than kamikaze too

so many

Starting to understand why I lose so many battles here

Lmao
I mean hey

Mid 40s rapper still rapping like it’s 20 years ago

Prolly not the best format to follow

because people dont like mainstream ICP content with good multies?

i'm gonna go there and also say that ? by xxxtentacion is better lyrically than kamikaze

After you said KOD was better lyrically you kind of lost all credibility, with me.

You're obviously free to form your own opinion. I just think you're missing something.

Em's lyrics are overflowing with allusory statements. He references certain classic Hip Hop, not just for the fuck of it, but because it has relevance in what he's talking about. He does the same shit in disses.

Em takes issue with MGK saying pedophilia type shit towards his daughter. So he says, "you already know who you are, Kelly."

Just that one line. It's clever. It's on point. The way he uses, 'already' as a rhyme for, 'are, Kelly.' All of this shit adds up and it never really ends. This is just one sliver of an example.

It's overly complex. He's teaching string theory to 6th graders.

If 2 syllable end rhymes are considered multis & lol @ moms spaghetti.

I'm gonna keep it 100 with you buddy

you got his dick in your mouth cus rhyming already and r kelly isn't flabbergasting

maybe doing text battles for so long makes me not think are/r kelly isn't that wild of a wordplay

Az - rather unique, thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0PccPy_pTM

Respecting someone's talent isn't having their dick in your mouth. Think I don't know being in this thread defending Eminem is unpopular? Think I'm doing it because I'm in love with him, or some other reason? Hmmmmmmm

It's not wild. It's pertinent. Relevant. The already/are, Kelly part isn't mind blowing, either. It's just one example of how you can subtly make a line/rhyme better by adding assonance or internal schemes.

Most of us here have been doing this for a while. No one is coming up with much that's refreshing or new in the world of wordplay. Current events is the best way to seem fresh. When a dude named Machine Gun Kelly talks about your 13 year old being hot, then as a rapper it's easy to make the connection. It's the way he uses it. It's subtle. It's relevant. He adds other elements to make the rhyme/line flow and sound better.

Like I said. One example. Point is... I looked at 5 Cole songs off that album you said was lyrically better than Kamikaze and none of it was even worth breaking down. It's all just straight forward rhyming. Take the first song off Kamikaze and you could teach a class on rhyme writing.

tbh kendrick is good and lyrical but to say his form of writing is more intricate or impressive than em isn't solid? what textcees do anything that em does? besides really good "rhymers" like neigh or db himself? i read a lot of battles here and nothing is really
impressive LYRICALLY. cool little wordplays and punches, but in theory that's tired and easy to do. if u think karaoke or cashijs are at the pinnacle of rhyming or anything of that nature u r clearly probably not the greatest writer. i haven't listened to end album and i probably won't even though I'm defending him here. cole is a good writer, but to say he's better lyrically is weird as fuck. i bump cole songs but better lyrically? song making and lyricism aren't the same lol. also literally almost nobody here is an amazing rhymer. I'm gewd friends with bagga but i don't hesitate to tell
him he sucks anytime i get. but i do understand he's considered cool and good, here. it's just silly saying eminem sucks. if he were on nc he'd be the people's champ prob and prob be pushed to go mainstream cause he'd be the best there or something retarded. em music generally sucks nowadays and u can't bump it on the car = doesn't equate to him not being good lyrically